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Doxxing defense: Remove your personal info from data brokers

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Re: Doxxing defense: Remove your personal info from data brokers

#31

"Many women gamers and developers, as well as those who support them, have lately come under attack from online trolls" Please don't whitewash the GamerGaters who have also experienced such attacks. (For example, one was "doxed" and mailed a knife with a suggestion to kill himself - which I'd argue a far worse "attack" than any online threats. The anti-GamerGate media of course doesn't report on this.)

What about a source for that?

@nero (on twitter) was sent a syringe in the mail.

Re: Doxxing defense: Remove your personal info from data brokers

#32
post #23

Rather than trying to make it harder for people to stalk/harass/intimidate others by hiding data, why don't we get tough with laws and sentencing? A 5 year jail stint for the next 10 idiots to pull this stunt will reduce the incident rate of this happening a lot faster.

Because the drug war proved that that method was ineffective and worse actually further criminalised individuals.

Re: Doxxing defense: Remove your personal info from data brokers

#33
post #23

Rather than trying to make it harder for people to stalk/harass/intimidate others by hiding data, why don't we get tough with laws and sentencing? A 5 year jail stint for the next 10 idiots to pull this stunt will reduce the incident rate of this happening a lot faster.

There's no significant link between prison sentences and crime rates.

If there was, Norway would have a high crime rate and the US would have a low crime rate.

Re: Doxxing defense: Remove your personal info from data brokers

#34
post #23

Rather than trying to make it harder for people to stalk/harass/intimidate others by hiding data, why don't we get tough with laws and sentencing? A 5 year jail stint for the next 10 idiots to pull this stunt will reduce the incident rate of this happening a lot faster.

Because it interferes with what the government deems legitimate business practice -- collecting and selling your info. Maybe some day, the NSA will also open some data taps for those with deep enough pockets. For now though, they're not competing, so let them live.

Re: Doxxing defense: Remove your personal info from data brokers

#35
post #23

Rather than trying to make it harder for people to stalk/harass/intimidate others by hiding data, why don't we get tough with laws and sentencing? A 5 year jail stint for the next 10 idiots to pull this stunt will reduce the incident rate of this happening a lot faster.

From what I've heard, most people when committing a crime don't evaluate the expected value of the harshness of punishment, merely whether there will be a substantial punishment at all. So long as you're attempting to use prison to deter crime, it argues for relatively light sentences. If you're trying to simply remove offenders from circulation, that's a different question. It won't really help them improve their character much though if the sentence is too harsh.

EDIT: A well publicised message of "if you do this we will catch you" and a well publicised conviction would help though mostly regardless of the length of sentence. Very few people find going to jail at all an acceptable outcome.

Re: Doxxing defense: Remove your personal info from data brokers

#36
post #5

Wow. This is an app just waiting to be built. I would definitely subscribe to a service like this. And I would happily give money to a nonprofit who provides this as a free service for women in tech. Developers, start your IDEs!

LifeLock is launching a free service to help with this exact problem. We're in Beta right now. You can request an invite here: https://privacy.lifelock.com and here's an article about it: http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/blog/techflash/2014/10/li...

Re: Doxxing defense: Remove your personal info from data brokers

#37
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what "whitewashed" means in this context, but you are definitely off topic and your comment reads like you are trying to justify some pretty terrible actions. The fact that other bad things happen to other people in no way excuses the bad things that happened to female game developers.

It's the bias in the media. GamerGate supporters are painted uniformly as misogynists. There is a legitimate argument about press ethics, freedom of speech, and whether appreciating an attractive body is the same as objectification. >justify some pretty terrible actions I'm asking that the terrible actions of BOTH sides are reported. There is an awful, hateful minority on both sides, but in the mainstream media, only…

Not only that, the entire reason harassment against women in gaming is in the news right now is to attack GamerGate. Nearly every article is focused on using it as proof that GamerGate are misogynistic scumbags. It's been a huge boon for every asshole who actually wants to drive women out of gaming - they're guaranteed widespread media coverage about how awful gaming is to women and how their actions represent gamers as a whole, and as a bonus their actions get blamed on people who hate them. Win-win!

People have even called for gamers to be forced to use their real names as a solution to the harassment, which would of course make the harassers' lives even easier - but hey, it'd let the people making the proposal bring down social consequences on supporters of GamerGate, so why not?

The whole thing's fucking ridiculous.

Re: Doxxing defense: Remove your personal info from data brokers

#38
post #25
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not men too?

This response grates a little. It's so common that it's widely discussed and parodied. E.g.: http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/10/18/phmt-argu... http://www.robot-hugs.com/but-men/ And it's closely related to the "not all men" line, equally mocked: http://www.listen-tome.com/save-me/ http://imgur.com/gallery/z5AYz66 But assuming that you are sincere and just unaware of the context: The reason that I person…

Your post is very politicized. There is no use arguing politics.

http://lesswrong.com/lw/gw/politics_is_the_mindkiller/

Re: Doxxing defense: Remove your personal info from data brokers

#39
post #25
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not men too?

This response grates a little. It's so common that it's widely discussed and parodied. E.g.: http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/10/18/phmt-argu... http://www.robot-hugs.com/but-men/ And it's closely related to the "not all men" line, equally mocked: http://www.listen-tome.com/save-me/ http://imgur.com/gallery/z5AYz66 But assuming that you are sincere and just unaware of the context: The reason that I person…

This is sexist and ostracizing :P.

Such service doesn't have a natural gender discrimination so it's actually additional work to create one. Sure, it might be worth to focus on marketing it to women, if indeed they get "disproportionately large share" of abuse (it sounds plausible to me, but I don't have data) - but there's no need for artificially limiting the service itself. Male privacy nerds would happily use it too.

Re: Doxxing defense: Remove your personal info from data brokers

#40
post #23

Rather than trying to make it harder for people to stalk/harass/intimidate others by hiding data, why don't we get tough with laws and sentencing? A 5 year jail stint for the next 10 idiots to pull this stunt will reduce the incident rate of this happening a lot faster.

Yes, indeed, that's what we need--5 year prison sentences for exercising 1st amendment rights. Preventing the creation of these databases? No, far too difficult to enforce...instead, let's go after the uppity little guys. You've suggested a remarkably short-sighted solution to a very thorny problem.

You're telling me it's my first amendment right to mail a knife to your home address and suggest you kill yourself?
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