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New Search Strategy for Firefox

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Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

#141
post #72

It's always seemed as though Google's and Mozilla's relationship would weaken over the years, though honestly I expected Bing rather than Yahoo to be the one to step up and fill Google's shoes. Also surprising is that apparently Mozilla was the one to initiate the switch. As a Firefox user, all in all I'm rather pleased. I've just tried a few of my typical searches on Yahoo and though the expected links aren't the to…

honestly I expected Bing

That would have been a twist that noone in 2001 would have seen coming.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

#142

Here's the option to suppress the change - http://i.imgur.com/HwHqQU9.png

It's worth noting that Google isn't disappearing from Firefox; you will still be able to manage your search engines as you have before.

But not in the "new tab" page I assume?

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

#143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yahoo will only respect DNT for Firefox users. This is because DNT was essentially ruined after Microsoft turned DNT on by default in IE. Since it didn't represent an explicit user choice, it carried much less weight. It is an explicit choice in Firefox.

And how will they target only Firefox users? Should we expect IE to start masquerading as again?

What is funny is that they are:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2014/11/11/living-on-the-...

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

#144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I too think that diversity helps: google has a monopoly in search, and a push for yahoo in search queries may even help them make the search engine better, and maybe they will become a much needed google competitor.

Mozilla and Google have been "frenemies" for a while. Now that Firefox is no longer supporting Google's search monopoly, I wonder how Google's search traffic (and stock price) will look in six months. I think Mozilla's decision is good for increasing search competition.

It will be same. Unless Yahoo have a real winning product (which given their track record, I doubt) people will just switch to google.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

#145

Mozilla is making some major moves these days. They've ditched Google as their main revenue source, partnering with Tor and Yahoo. Yahoo is angling to be a digital magazine, which I like as a business model much more than Google's. Firefox is making a strong case for itself as the privacy centric browser. I still remember when Firefox started gaining market share. Even non-tech-savvy people were getting firefox, beca…

> Firefox is making a strong case for itself as the privacy centric browser.

They try their best to market themselves as a privacy-centric browser. To promote themselves as so they add some shiny things like making clearing browser history a two mouse clicks more accessible. But I'm still worried.

I'm really nitpicking but... That 3rd party cookie controversy that lasted for almost an year, the "oh, we're full of FLOSS ideals and are firmly against DRM but... hey, wait, users want Netflix, gotta support DRM" controversy, the recent "sponsored tiles" controversy, the update of over-engineered and undocumented proprietary Firefox Sync/Accounts that makes it even harder to not depend on their servers, the complete ignorance on TLS client certificates' UI and usability (which is why we're still stuck with passwords), the BrowserID/Persona thingy that happily continued the trend that makes your identity owned by a third party, and so on. I know, it's not good to complain in such rude manner, but the issues do exist. Personally, I wouldn't really trust Firefox. Not without lots of addons, at least.

Unfortunately, I guess this can't be helped. A large project like Firefox seems to be impossible without steady and fairly big money income, and since this money comes from advertisers whose interests are in complete opposite of users' privacy, Mozilla just have to make some sacrifices.

Still, among the mainstream browsers they're better than competitors.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

#146
post #3

Anyone have any insights into this? From the outside it looks like Mozilla is parting ways with Google because of Chrome. Interesting they went with Yahoo and not Bing.

What's interesting about it? Microsoft killed the company which mozilla originated from. And they were created for the sole purpose not to let Microsoft has a monopoly on the gateway to the Internet...

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

#147
post #3

Anyone have any insights into this? From the outside it looks like Mozilla is parting ways with Google because of Chrome. Interesting they went with Yahoo and not Bing.

What's interesting about it? Microsoft killed the company which mozilla originated from. \

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

#148
Yahoo! is OK, but... Yandex and Baidu are not exactly recommended company for an organization that pretends to hold the Open Web's moral higher ground. They practice large-scale censorship, they are instruments of repressive regimes. How does that make any sense?

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

#149
post #63

This is why Google built Chrome. Google's strategy has been to remove the layers between the user's intent to search and Google's own server. Every intermediate layer that Google does not control is a risk to their business. When viewed through these lens, many of the seemingly ancillary Google business units start to make strategic sense. Android (control the device), Chrome (control the browser), Fiber (control the…

When viewed through these lens, many of the seemingly ancillary Google business units start to make strategic sense. Android (control the device), Chrome (control the browser), Fiber (control the tubes). You forgot Google Glass (control the eyes).

Yes maybe through polarized lenses that filter out all their failed products.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

#150
post #63

This is why Google built Chrome. Google's strategy has been to remove the layers between the user's intent to search and Google's own server. Every intermediate layer that Google does not control is a risk to their business. When viewed through these lens, many of the seemingly ancillary Google business units start to make strategic sense. Android (control the device), Chrome (control the browser), Fiber (control the…

You're giving Google way too much credit for forward thinking. Your rhetoric reeks of conspiracy theories. For one thing, Eric Schmidt was actually against building a browser.
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