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New Search Strategy for Firefox

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Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

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post #32

This makes me less likely to use Mozilla, but I was already a Chrome or Safari user (despite supporting the Mozilla mission). Seems like a bad decision for Mozilla.

Why does this make you less likely to use Firefox? The default search engine is just that: the default. You can change it to something else, and always have been able to. If you care enough to know what search engine you use, you should be able to change it.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a strong option in place from Google, but Mozilla decided not to go with them as a global default in order to promote choice.

I don't think I follow this argument. Can you explain it further? It feels like Yahoo probably just offered more money.

Both Google and Yahoo offered options with strong, economic terms. But it came down to a decision of values, and where Mozilla wanted to see the Internet in the future (again, full of choice, diversification, and healthy competition). What happens next is anyone's guess.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

#53
Some more details:

* This is a new, more flexible partnership strategy.

* Continuing the existing relationship with Google was an option, but Mozilla chose to end the Google relationship.

* All the options Mozilla considered had strong, improved economic terms (but the concrete numbers are not public). Because all the options had improved economics, that allowed Mozilla to really consider the strategic outlook.

* The Yahoo agreement in the US is for five years.

* Yahoo will be rolling out a new, improved search tool soon.

* Mozilla has agreements with Yandex and Baidu for Russia and China.

* Google will remain an included option in Firefox and Mozilla will continue to support its use.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

#54
post #32

This makes me less likely to use Mozilla, but I was already a Chrome or Safari user (despite supporting the Mozilla mission). Seems like a bad decision for Mozilla.

Why would this be a bad decision, or make you less likely to use Firefox? Mozilla exists in large part due to the abuses that come with monopolistic control over the Internet. Google is dangerously close to that line.

Choosing a different partner seems like the most mission-aligned option for Mozilla.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

#56

Note that is affects only U.S.-based users of Firefox. Good move for both parties, and I hope they can struck deals with regional search engines in other locations as well. Diversification is good for everybody.

I too think that diversity helps: google has a monopoly in search, and a push for yahoo in search queries may even help them make the search engine better, and maybe they will become a much needed google competitor.

Does Yahoo still operate a search engine? I thought they used Bing.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

#57

Note that is affects only U.S.-based users of Firefox. Good move for both parties, and I hope they can struck deals with regional search engines in other locations as well. Diversification is good for everybody.

I too think that diversity helps: google has a monopoly in search, and a push for yahoo in search queries may even help them make the search engine better, and maybe they will become a much needed google competitor.

Mozilla and Google have been "frenemies" for a while. Now that Firefox is no longer supporting Google's search monopoly, I wonder how Google's search traffic (and stock price) will look in six months. I think Mozilla's decision is good for increasing search competition.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

#59
post #3

Anyone have any insights into this? From the outside it looks like Mozilla is parting ways with Google because of Chrome. Interesting they went with Yahoo and not Bing.

> Anyone have any insights into this? From the outside it looks like Mozilla is parting ways with Google because of Chrome. Looks more like Mozilla is parting ways with Google because of money -- whether Yahoo! offering more than Google has in the past or Google offering less. (Though, looking at historical usage share measures, there's a good argument that if Google is offering less, its likely because Chrome eclips…

if Google is offering less, its likely because Chrome eclipsing Firefox -- and by some measures IE -- has reduced the value of default search placement in Firefox

Yahoo is looking at the same marketshare numbers, so that actually can't be the reason.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

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post #32

This makes me less likely to use Mozilla, but I was already a Chrome or Safari user (despite supporting the Mozilla mission). Seems like a bad decision for Mozilla.

That doesn't make sense.

You can switch the default search engine if you want, you can choose between them, you can even add keywords for fast access so "g query" searches on Google and "s query" searches on StackOverflow (I don't really get why DuckDuckGo users prefer their queries to go through DDG). Like open Firefox, go to StackOverflow.com, highlight their search input, right click and choose "Add Keyword for this Search". That's what power users are doing.

Plus Firefox has the Awesome Bar which has brought me back to it after using Chrome for some time - as it does a great job of doing full-text searches in your history if you only remember a word or two in the title. By comparison Chrome wants you to do searches on Google and that's like looking for a needle in a haystack.

As for the move to Yahoo! - well, whatever keeps them doing the awesome work that they are doing. Plus people bitched and moaned about Mozilla being dependent on Google's cash flow. Apparently not.

Myself, I'll try it out (haven't been using Yahoo! in a long time) and if it doesn't work out then that's OK, I'll just switch back to Google, though DDG is starting to grow on me.

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