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Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

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Post by mythmon_ » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 9:52 PM UTC

sp332 wrote: post #12

I'd swear this happened already... I updated Firefox on an old Android tablet yesterday and the default search was already switched to Yahoo. Edit: ah, now that you mention it, it was a Beta version.

Pre-release versions (Beta, Aurrora, Nightly) on Android have been running experiments with Yahoo for a while.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

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Post by mightykan » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 9:52 PM UTC

pwnna wrote: post #4

One question: wasn't Yahoo supposed to be a part of Bing at some point?

When Microsoft failed to purchase Yahoo to $47.5bn billion in 2008, they reached a 10-year deal in 2009 for Yahoo to use Bing's infrastructure and "backend" for search [1]. Yahoo provides their own UI/UX and Microsoft provides the actual data.

So, technically, Firefox will be showing very similar (if not identical) results to Bing.

[1]: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8174763.stm

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

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Post by potch » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 9:54 PM UTC

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #13

The real question is did Google stop paying? did Yahoo offer way more? Or did Mozilla want to break out from Google's shadow? Edit: I mean to say did Google decide to end it, or did Mozilla, and why?

Mozilla was the one who decided not to renew.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 9:54 PM UTC

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Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

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Post by mnemonik » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 9:54 PM UTC

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #13

The real question is did Google stop paying? did Yahoo offer way more? Or did Mozilla want to break out from Google's shadow? Edit: I mean to say did Google decide to end it, or did Mozilla, and why?

All of the potential partnerships (including going with Google again) offered an improvement economically over the last deal partnership.

Mozilla chose not to go with Google again.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

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Post by chuckharmston » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 9:54 PM UTC

huhtenberg wrote: post #17

Here's the option to suppress the change - http://i.imgur.com/HwHqQU9.png

It's worth noting that Google isn't disappearing from Firefox; you will still be able to manage your search engines as you have before.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

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Post by todesschaf » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 9:55 PM UTC

agapos wrote: post #8

Doesn't that mean that Google giving up on one of the biggest markets means they no longer need Mozilla and it can ditch it's support altogether? Will Yahoo be able to support Moz as Google did? Will this became precedence for other countries too (aside from exceptions like Russia's yandex)?

You're assuming Google gave up on Mozilla, and not the other way around. Your assumption is incorrect.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

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Post by mythmon_ » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 9:56 PM UTC

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #13

The real question is did Google stop paying? did Yahoo offer way more? Or did Mozilla want to break out from Google's shadow? Edit: I mean to say did Google decide to end it, or did Mozilla, and why?

Mozilla's deal with Google ran it's course. Instead of inking a new deal with Google, Mozilla decided to go with another option.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

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Post by ngokevin » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 9:56 PM UTC

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #13

The real question is did Google stop paying? did Yahoo offer way more? Or did Mozilla want to break out from Google's shadow? Edit: I mean to say did Google decide to end it, or did Mozilla, and why?

There was a strong option in place from Google, but Mozilla decided not to go with them as a global default in order to promote choice.

Re: New Search Strategy for Firefox

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Post by aluhut » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 9:56 PM UTC

huhtenberg wrote: post #17

Here's the option to suppress the change - http://i.imgur.com/HwHqQU9.png

I was already unchecked in mine.