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Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by dingaling »

72deluxe wrote: post #72
dingaling wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are there any consumer devices running x86 Android? Tesco Hudl2 8-inch tablet, popular in the UK. Battery life is fairly dismal, from personal experience. And a dozen or so tablets in the Chinese market, few of which reach 'our' shores.

Do you find the Hudl2 any good other than the battery? Did you have a Hudl 1? If so, how does it compare? Also, what sort of battery life do you get?

Fantastic screen on the Hudl2, exceptionally sharp. Good snappy CPU and wife reporters that it plays HD films without breaking a sweat.

But we usually have to charge it every night by when it has dropped to 30% capacity. Full to empty when watching films and browsing is less than 24 hours, sadly. Despite An enormous battery.

Also very hard to root and charging sometimes stalls and requires a reboot to restart.

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Post by Roritharr »

unwind wrote: post #64

This is the first product I've seen to feature the new reversible and just generally very promising USB C-type connector. Just wanted to point that out, since it's fun when new tech enters the market.

I just noticed too, this is awesome. But on the product page it says USB 2 Type-C, which is weird, since I've thought Type-C would start from USB 3.1, but it seems the standards can be mixed and matched. It would have been great since you'd have the DisplayPort Lanes on the connector as well, allowing for full 4k output over that small connector.

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Post by lnanek2 »

Would be interesting to see what the new zero gap screen looks like in person. For people who don't know, screens often have spaces between the front glass, actual LCD, touch sensor, etc.. Zero gap/laminated should improve display quality.

Battery live measurements would be nice too with the Intel processor maybe helping or hurting.

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Post by Joona »

dijit wrote: post #68
tormeh wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you looked at sailfishOS? I think that's the modern descendant of maemo.

Yes and it's being produced with my ex-bosses and there is a working phone over at Jolla[0] I've not tried it though. :( I'd like to. [0] http://jolla.com/

I have a Jolla, and it is simply amazing. Sailfish is a true touchscreen OS. I definitely recommend you try one if you can (at least in Finland, DNA stores might have them).

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Post by walterbell »

jarek wrote: post #78
walterbell wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If there is evidence, it won't be on HN :) The point of the GP post was that there was no publicly visible investigation that even looked for evidence, not even from ambulance chasing lawyers. With a large number of affected parties, naive and affected observers start asking questions. When the affected people are still griping years later, it may be wise for someone to at least pretend to investigate. Wouldn't want…

Alternatively, given how common "shareholder value" civil lawsuits from ambulance-chasing lawyers are, and how large the company and its fall were, if there was something to be uncovered, it would have been uncovered by now. The fact that it hasn't and the only things remaining are some butthurt and Something Should Be Done opinions suggests per Occam's razor that there's nothing there.

Yeah, that's been the official line for a few years - nothing to see here, move along.

The issue is not whether or not there was fraud. The issue is that some affected people still have not regained trust in the words and assurances of the leaders, and still cannot make sense of the outcome.

Into cracks of distrust fall the seeds of unpredictable change.

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Post by mdasen »

rbanffy wrote: post #75

If Nokia, now owned by Microsoft, distributes a Linux variant, wouldn't that void all patent royalty claims they have used against other manufacturers? Any N1 owner can redistribute their source (which they have to make available) and grant the same usage rights the N1 owner got from Microsoft, effectively granting each and every Android manufacturer the same rights of N1 owners.

The GPLv2 is only a copyright license, not a patent license. Some open-source licenses do require you not to enforce any of your patents that might be used in the product, but the GPLv2 does not.

As others have pointed out, this tablet isn't from Microsoft, but even if it were from Microsoft it wouldn't matter because no patent rights are conferred by the GPLv2.

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Post by hbharadwaj »

nakedrobot2 wrote: post #12

On the subject of this tablet (too little, too late), there is a nagging question, that maybe someone could explain: Why has there not been any criminal investigation at all, into the infiltration and acquisiton of Nokia? 1. Microsoft exec becomes CEO of Nokia 2. He bankrupts the company (burning platform memo, etc.) (Not only does he bankrupt it, but in all the history of corporate business , this is one of the most…

Have you read this article on Business Week?

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/11_24/b42320567...

Talks about Nokia's strategy and it does look like there was buy-in on the decision from management and the board.

Also, they had hired a Strategy House - can't remember which (either BCG or Bain) to bolster their conclusions. Am sure there were agreements and Elop wasn't a one-man army.

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by xrjn »

lnanek2 wrote: post #84

Would be interesting to see what the new zero gap screen looks like in person. For people who don't know, screens often have spaces between the front glass, actual LCD, touch sensor, etc.. Zero gap/laminated should improve display quality. Battery live measurements would be nice too with the Intel processor maybe helping or hurting.

Most modern smartphones already have this to a certain extent, I don't think that what Nokia calls 'zero gap screen' is much different from what we see today. All iPhones since the iPhone 4 have this, same with the Samsung Galaxy line (at least since the SIII, I didn't follow them before), and I'm sure most other mid/high end phones also use this. It's not only a question of improving display quality, this method allows manufacturers guarantee that there will be no dust between the lcd and the touch panel. It also makes the display module thinner, but then makes repair much more difficult - you either have to replace the entire module or painstakingly separate the LCD from the glass.
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