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Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by Spearchucker »

Shofo wrote: post #31
nakedrobot2 wrote: post #12

On the subject of this tablet (too little, too late), there is a nagging question, that maybe someone could explain: Why has there not been any criminal investigation at all, into the infiltration and acquisiton of Nokia? 1. Microsoft exec becomes CEO of Nokia 2. He bankrupts the company (burning platform memo, etc.) (Not only does he bankrupt it, but in all the history of corporate business , this is one of the most…

I've been wondering this for a long time myself. Even the fact that the company was steered away from Meego for (at the time) a less functional OS like Windows Phone (damned thing didn't have a twitter app and Meego came with one...) by an ex exec who could potentially benefit from the migration of Nokia's devices to Microsoft OS(if he had options). Such a shame. Meego was revolutionary and is still imo the most intu…

To be fair it (Windows Phone) didn't need a Twitter app. It is (and was, from launch) built into the OS.

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by 72deluxe »

dingaling wrote: post #57
nemothekid wrote: post #29

It looks like 7in iPhone. Even the connector looks like a lightning jack from the renders. And at 6.9mm its thinner than every iPad other than the Air 2 and is even thinner than the 6+ (its as thin as the 6). Also a quad core intel atom. Are there any consumer devices running x86 Android? Seems like an interesting choice, I wonder how long intel can squeeze that battery. Really interesting design choice on Nokia's pa…

> Are there any consumer devices running x86 Android? Tesco Hudl2 8-inch tablet, popular in the UK. Battery life is fairly dismal, from personal experience. And a dozen or so tablets in the Chinese market, few of which reach 'our' shores.

Do you find the Hudl2 any good other than the battery? Did you have a Hudl 1? If so, how does it compare?

Also, what sort of battery life do you get?

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by walterbell »

jarek wrote: post #70
walterbell wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tomi Ahonen has made a few lists.. edit for downvoters who don't know now to run a web search: http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2013/09/elop-25...

I upvoted you. Very detailed back story but I'm not clear where criminal charges against anyone would arise. What am I missing? Has evidence of purposeful fraud by the board members been uncovered since Sept 2013?

If there is evidence, it won't be on HN :) The point of the GP post was that there was no publicly visible investigation that even looked for evidence, not even from ambulance chasing lawyers.

With a large number of affected parties, naive and affected observers start asking questions. When the affected people are still griping years later, it may be wise for someone to at least pretend to investigate. Wouldn't want people to lose confidence in erstwhile institutions.

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Post by rbanffy »

If Nokia, now owned by Microsoft, distributes a Linux variant, wouldn't that void all patent royalty claims they have used against other manufacturers? Any N1 owner can redistribute their source (which they have to make available) and grant the same usage rights the N1 owner got from Microsoft, effectively granting each and every Android manufacturer the same rights of N1 owners.

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by yitchelle »

rbanffy wrote: post #75

If Nokia, now owned by Microsoft, distributes a Linux variant, wouldn't that void all patent royalty claims they have used against other manufacturers? Any N1 owner can redistribute their source (which they have to make available) and grant the same usage rights the N1 owner got from Microsoft, effectively granting each and every Android manufacturer the same rights of N1 owners.

This tablet is from the Nokia that was not acquire by Microsoft as mentioned in this comment. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8623311

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Post by Shooti »

rbanffy wrote: post #75

If Nokia, now owned by Microsoft, distributes a Linux variant, wouldn't that void all patent royalty claims they have used against other manufacturers? Any N1 owner can redistribute their source (which they have to make available) and grant the same usage rights the N1 owner got from Microsoft, effectively granting each and every Android manufacturer the same rights of N1 owners.

Microsoft only bought Nokia's devices division, this is a product by the actual Nokia.

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by jarek »

walterbell wrote: post #73
jarek wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I upvoted you. Very detailed back story but I'm not clear where criminal charges against anyone would arise. What am I missing? Has evidence of purposeful fraud by the board members been uncovered since Sept 2013?

If there is evidence, it won't be on HN :) The point of the GP post was that there was no publicly visible investigation that even looked for evidence, not even from ambulance chasing lawyers. With a large number of affected parties, naive and affected observers start asking questions. When the affected people are still griping years later, it may be wise for someone to at least pretend to investigate. Wouldn't want…

Alternatively, given how common "shareholder value" civil lawsuits from ambulance-chasing lawyers are, and how large the company and its fall were, if there was something to be uncovered, it would have been uncovered by now. The fact that it hasn't and the only things remaining are some butthurt and Something Should Be Done opinions suggests per Occam's razor that there's nothing there.

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by sjogress »

rbanffy wrote: post #75

If Nokia, now owned by Microsoft, distributes a Linux variant, wouldn't that void all patent royalty claims they have used against other manufacturers? Any N1 owner can redistribute their source (which they have to make available) and grant the same usage rights the N1 owner got from Microsoft, effectively granting each and every Android manufacturer the same rights of N1 owners.

Nokia sold off its phone division along with limited rights to the Nokia brand name to Microsoft. Nokia is still a large company with several different divisions not owned by Microsoft.

This tablet seems to be from the old, independent Nokia, not Microsoft.

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by mempko »

dijit wrote: post #68
tormeh wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you looked at sailfishOS? I think that's the modern descendant of maemo.

Yes and it's being produced with my ex-bosses and there is a working phone over at Jolla[0] I've not tried it though. :( I'd like to. [0] http://jolla.com/

I have a nexus 5 and am replying to you from sailfish. The porters have done a great job.
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