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They did, because it's Nokia's brand, not Microsoft's. We (Nokia) are doing this independently of Microsoft.

Probably not the right place to ask but any guarantees N1 will not go Nokia X way?

I think that Nokia X was "product of Microsoft" (although planned long before the deal). This is product of Nokia, that means remaining parts of Nokia after mobile division was sold to Microsoft. So two different companies, same brand.

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Very nice! Hope they'll release some Android phones, too. Whatever phone shop I enter I found myself loving the Nokia sets the most, but I just can't use Windows.

I think that they cannot release phone until 2016.

It's also worth mentioning that the CEO has recently stated that they're not interested in returning to the mobile handset market[1]. Of course it's anybodies guess as to how much stock to actually place in that statement.

[1]http://www.zdnet.com/nokia-says-no-return-to-handsets-as-ceo...

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Nokia had Qt+QML and the opportunity to take this cross-platform, plus an innovation advantage with Meego (no Java overhead) and patents. Now Microsoft is attempting to take C# cross-platform and open-source, after blocking Qt on Windows Phone. Years have been lost. Meanwhile Java chews up memory and courtroom time on Android. There's still nothing on the market to compare with Nokia offline maps -- uses no data when…

I 100% agree with everything you say. I'm even one of those strange freaks that has a Nokia Lumia as my private phone and love Nokia Here maps. From a personal point of view I really wish Nokia had stuck with MeeGo until the bitter end, but Nokia had to look out for Nokia and I still can't blame Nokia for the choices they made.

Have you looked at sailfishOS? I think that's the modern descendant of maemo.

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This is the first product I've seen to feature the new reversible and just generally very promising USB C-type connector. Just wanted to point that out, since it's fun when new tech enters the market.

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2 and 3 are highly contentious. Nokia's mobile phone division was in huge trouble long before Elop showed up, and there is no indication that anything he did made it worse. And given the state Nokia was in, the deal they got from MS was extremely fair.

Nokia was 4 months away from shipping the "Lumia" running MeeGo when February 10th happened. People were pretty angry. Source: I was working there on the project at the time.

How certain are you that it would have shipped? Maemo had missed deadlines for years and never been in a mainstream product.

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I was thinking about buying the Nokia Android phone back in June, but then I read reports they abandoned the platform. I don't trust them. Being stuck with unsupported software is really bad if the software sucks. And Android often does. I wouldn't consider 2.1 or lower release ready.. beta at best.. yet they sold it to consumers.

That was Microsoft, this is Nokia. Two different companies using the Nokia brand.

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Nokia was 4 months away from shipping the "Lumia" running MeeGo when February 10th happened. People were pretty angry. Source: I was working there on the project at the time.

How certain are you that it would have shipped? Maemo had missed deadlines for years and never been in a mainstream product.

there was an ongoing joke in the company that they had "the most expensive clock application ever made" because they kept reinventing it.

but they would have shipped, the deadline was a _dead_line and the product was very close to completion.

the build-systems were finalised and we had started package version locks for builds of the software we were going to use on the distro.. it was very much final stages and polishing.

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I 100% agree with everything you say. I'm even one of those strange freaks that has a Nokia Lumia as my private phone and love Nokia Here maps. From a personal point of view I really wish Nokia had stuck with MeeGo until the bitter end, but Nokia had to look out for Nokia and I still can't blame Nokia for the choices they made.

Have you looked at sailfishOS? I think that's the modern descendant of maemo.

Yes and it's being produced with my ex-bosses and there is a working phone over at Jolla[0] I've not tried it though. :( I'd like to.

[0]http://jolla.com/

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I 100% agree with everything you say. I'm even one of those strange freaks that has a Nokia Lumia as my private phone and love Nokia Here maps. From a personal point of view I really wish Nokia had stuck with MeeGo until the bitter end, but Nokia had to look out for Nokia and I still can't blame Nokia for the choices they made.

Have you looked at sailfishOS? I think that's the modern descendant of maemo.

Looked at as in read about it? Sure. Looked at as in actually seen it on real hardware? Nope.

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Why has there not been any criminal investigation at all, into the infiltration and acquisiton of Nokia? Who would you investigate and what crimes would you accuse them of? The closest thing I'm coming up with is blaming the directors that hired the CEO for tanking shareholder value, but that's a civil matter. Being incompetent is not a crime unless you can prove fraud.

Tomi Ahonen has made a few lists.. edit for downvoters who don't know now to run a web search: http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2013/09/elop-25...

I upvoted you. Very detailed back story but I'm not clear where criminal charges against anyone would arise. What am I missing? Has evidence of purposeful fraud by the board members been uncovered since Sept 2013?
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