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Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by pjmlp »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #24
nakedrobot2 wrote: post #12

On the subject of this tablet (too little, too late), there is a nagging question, that maybe someone could explain: Why has there not been any criminal investigation at all, into the infiltration and acquisiton of Nokia? 1. Microsoft exec becomes CEO of Nokia 2. He bankrupts the company (burning platform memo, etc.) (Not only does he bankrupt it, but in all the history of corporate business , this is one of the most…

I had the exact same thing and also, after Microsoft buys Nokia, Elop became Microsoft's Vice President of Microsoft's Devices & Services... It's like it was meant to be :) He also received quite a bonus after selling Nokia

> He also received quite a bonus after selling Nokia

He achieved what he was hired for. Sadly

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by Nokinside »

Yuioup wrote: post #34

I thought that Microsoft was getting rid of the Nokia brand?

They are.

This is not Microsoft making tablet with Nokia brand. This is Nokia the company making their own Tablet.

Nokia only sold its ‘Devices and Services’ business to Microsoft and licensed its brand for transition period to MS.

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by sirkneeland »

dagw wrote: post #6
laichzeit0 wrote: post #4

"And, it again isn’t the standard Android OS" Why is this a good thing? Does it mean that it's going to lag behind, and at some point stop running the latest version of Android leaving you with a device that can't be updated?

According to The Verge it will run stock android 5.0, just with a custom launcher installed.

This is correct.

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by sirkneeland »

nemothekid wrote: post #29

It looks like 7in iPhone. Even the connector looks like a lightning jack from the renders. And at 6.9mm its thinner than every iPad other than the Air 2 and is even thinner than the 6+ (its as thin as the 6). Also a quad core intel atom. Are there any consumer devices running x86 Android? Seems like an interesting choice, I wonder how long intel can squeeze that battery. Really interesting design choice on Nokia's pa…

It looks amazing (and much more unique) in person. You'll have to try it! :)

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by walterbell »

Shofo wrote: post #31
nakedrobot2 wrote: post #12

On the subject of this tablet (too little, too late), there is a nagging question, that maybe someone could explain: Why has there not been any criminal investigation at all, into the infiltration and acquisiton of Nokia? 1. Microsoft exec becomes CEO of Nokia 2. He bankrupts the company (burning platform memo, etc.) (Not only does he bankrupt it, but in all the history of corporate business , this is one of the most…

I've been wondering this for a long time myself. Even the fact that the company was steered away from Meego for (at the time) a less functional OS like Windows Phone (damned thing didn't have a twitter app and Meego came with one...) by an ex exec who could potentially benefit from the migration of Nokia's devices to Microsoft OS(if he had options). Such a shame. Meego was revolutionary and is still imo the most intu…

Do you recall when Nokia corporate email was migrated to Exchange, and what was the prior system?

In a Hollywood movie script, after failure of internal reorgs, a company could be tanked with deniablity, speculators make $ shorting/bouncing the stock, sell shell to BigCo, retain brand, rebuild new company and new corporate culture. Only in the movies.

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by hyp0 »

chroma wrote: post #14
mahouse wrote: post #2

Interesting: Intel inside ("Intel® 64-bit Atom™ Processor Z3580, 2.3 GHz")

Talk about overkill. That's a quad-core x86-64 CPU clocking up to 2.33Ghz. I realize Atom microarchitectures aren't wide as Haswell and ilk, but that's still some serious horsepower. It's also interesting that Intel doesn't mention the TDP on their site.[1] I wonder if it eats more power than a comparable ARM CPU. 1. http://ark.intel.com/products/81195/Intel-Atom-Processor-Z35...

Atom is less powerful than Celeron, Intel's low-budget/low-power family. Plus, it will be throttled, to reduce power consumption/heat, like all mobile CPU... but... it certainly does seem like a desktop-class CPU.

It would be interesting to find the median power of a desktop CPU for each year; and the power delivered by a mobile CPU that's sustainable (i.e. without throttling/overheating - 2.33GHz is the "burst frequency"). Then, for example, you could say it's a "2003 desktop class".

As a super-flawed estimate, the first time a PC CPU was available at or above 2.3GHz was in 2003. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microprocessor_chronology (Opteron, AMD) But this Atom may be a bit better, because that was high-end, not median; not 64-bit; not using fast memory or other advances; and single core not quad. How much they offset the crippled architecture of Atom and throttling, I don't know. It also has 2MB cache; my median PC in 2006 had only 512KB cache...

I'd guess it's around 2006-8 desktop class.

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by Aoyagi »

conradfr wrote: post #37
Aoyagi wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Finland or EU (not a country (yet?), I know), of course. Nokia was a Finnish asset and EU should be looking into these deals to begin with.

Yes like when Europe fights against Mittal when they close profitable steel factories or screw them with no investments and R&D, oh wait.

And your point is what exactly?

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by walterbell »

dagw wrote: post #38
dijit wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nokia was 4 months away from shipping the "Lumia" running MeeGo when February 10th happened. People were pretty angry. Source: I was working there on the project at the time.

As a MeeGo fans since back when it was called Maemo (I even had an N810) I'm as sad as the next person to never get that phone. That being said I am not at all convinced that going with MeeGo over WP wouldn't have left Nokia in worse position than the one it ended up in.

Nokia had Qt+QML and the opportunity to take this cross-platform, plus an innovation advantage with Meego (no Java overhead) and patents. Now Microsoft is attempting to take C# cross-platform and open-source, after blocking Qt on Windows Phone. Years have been lost. Meanwhile Java chews up memory and courtroom time on Android.

There's still nothing on the market to compare with Nokia offline maps -- uses no data when travelling, does not send location history to OTT provider like Google or Apple.

The entire industry lost when Nokia imploded, especially Google and Apple, whose UI has stagnated, unless hard to read "thin fonts" count as innovation. Competition from Nokia Linux nee Meego (not to mention WebOS) would have been good for all parties.

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by orbifold »

conradfr wrote: post #37
Aoyagi wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Finland or EU (not a country (yet?), I know), of course. Nokia was a Finnish asset and EU should be looking into these deals to begin with.

Yes like when Europe fights against Mittal when they close profitable steel factories or screw them with no investments and R&D, oh wait.

Sadly it no longer is enough to be profitable, you also have to make enough profit (~20% in the banking sector), which is why Thyssen decided to focus on high technology steel products, instead of competing with India/China on price.
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