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Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by Shofo »

nakedrobot2 wrote: post #12

On the subject of this tablet (too little, too late), there is a nagging question, that maybe someone could explain: Why has there not been any criminal investigation at all, into the infiltration and acquisiton of Nokia? 1. Microsoft exec becomes CEO of Nokia 2. He bankrupts the company (burning platform memo, etc.) (Not only does he bankrupt it, but in all the history of corporate business , this is one of the most…

I've been wondering this for a long time myself. Even the fact that the company was steered away from Meego for (at the time) a less functional OS like Windows Phone (damned thing didn't have a twitter app and Meego came with one...) by an ex exec who could potentially benefit from the migration of Nokia's devices to Microsoft OS(if he had options).

Such a shame. Meego was revolutionary and is still imo the most intuitive OS ever made. If only someone reputable picked it up, as it still is revolutionary.

Android took the double tap to turn on and HTC Sense took the app cards but beyond that it still has an edge if it was around today.

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by dagw »

nabla9 wrote: post #17
secretdark wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I think it's tough to tell whether it's Nokia adopting Android or the company that's licensing the Nokia name (a Chinese hardware manufacturer) that's adopting Android. I don't doubt they had sign-off on the Android aspect (and, hopefully, actual device quality) prior to lending their name to it, but it seems like, given their plan to license off the Nokia brand, their "adoption" of anything is kind of moot.

N1 is their product. They just use contract manufacturers just like Apple does. They are also hiring new people for tablet development. Nokia only sold their phone manufacturing and design to Microsoft. Nokia is Nokia Networks, Mobile Broadband- and Global Services, Nokia HERE ja Nokia Technologies (previously Nokia Research). They also own the patents (just licensed to Microsoft)

Nokia has however been shopping its brand around to third parties looking to slap the Nokia label onto their own designs.

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by walterbell »

jarek wrote: post #28
nakedrobot2 wrote: post #12

On the subject of this tablet (too little, too late), there is a nagging question, that maybe someone could explain: Why has there not been any criminal investigation at all, into the infiltration and acquisiton of Nokia? 1. Microsoft exec becomes CEO of Nokia 2. He bankrupts the company (burning platform memo, etc.) (Not only does he bankrupt it, but in all the history of corporate business , this is one of the most…

Why has there not been any criminal investigation at all, into the infiltration and acquisiton of Nokia? Who would you investigate and what crimes would you accuse them of? The closest thing I'm coming up with is blaming the directors that hired the CEO for tanking shareholder value, but that's a civil matter. Being incompetent is not a crime unless you can prove fraud.

Tomi Ahonen has made a few lists..

edit for downvoters who don't know now to run a web search:

http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2013/09/elop-25...

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by brunnsbe »

nakedrobot2 wrote: post #12

On the subject of this tablet (too little, too late), there is a nagging question, that maybe someone could explain: Why has there not been any criminal investigation at all, into the infiltration and acquisiton of Nokia? 1. Microsoft exec becomes CEO of Nokia 2. He bankrupts the company (burning platform memo, etc.) (Not only does he bankrupt it, but in all the history of corporate business , this is one of the most…

Here is a good article written around 2 years ago on how Nokia went from MeeGo to Windows Phone: http://taskumuro.com/artikkelit/the-story-of-nokia-meego

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Post by conradfr »

Aoyagi wrote: post #22
walterbell wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which country would investigate?

Finland or EU (not a country (yet?), I know), of course. Nokia was a Finnish asset and EU should be looking into these deals to begin with.

Yes like when Europe fights against Mittal when they close profitable steel factories or screw them with no investments and R&D, oh wait.

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by dagw »

dijit wrote: post #27
dagw wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2 and 3 are highly contentious. Nokia's mobile phone division was in huge trouble long before Elop showed up, and there is no indication that anything he did made it worse. And given the state Nokia was in, the deal they got from MS was extremely fair.

Nokia was 4 months away from shipping the "Lumia" running MeeGo when February 10th happened. People were pretty angry. Source: I was working there on the project at the time.

As a MeeGo fans since back when it was called Maemo (I even had an N810) I'm as sad as the next person to never get that phone. That being said I am not at all convinced that going with MeeGo over WP wouldn't have left Nokia in worse position than the one it ended up in.

Re: Nokia N1 Android Tablet Revealed

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Post by pjmlp »

nakedrobot2 wrote: post #12

On the subject of this tablet (too little, too late), there is a nagging question, that maybe someone could explain: Why has there not been any criminal investigation at all, into the infiltration and acquisiton of Nokia? 1. Microsoft exec becomes CEO of Nokia 2. He bankrupts the company (burning platform memo, etc.) (Not only does he bankrupt it, but in all the history of corporate business , this is one of the most…

He got payed by Nokia board to drive it into the ground as part of his bonus.

So the board is to blame, he was just going after his bonus.

"Elop was entitled to immediate share price performance bonus in case of a “change of control” situation…"

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/sep/24/nokia-payo...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/terokuittinen/2013/09/24/nokia-a...

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