Just to make it clear to everybody, this is not an electronic voting system. This is only a set of applications to accelerate vote counting before the official results. All of the votes must be counted and submitted the "old fashion way". You couldn't mess with the actual results by hacking this "appkenstein".
Source code of Polish electoral voting system?
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Re: Source code of Polish electoral voting system?
#22Leaked? Is the source code not public anyway? I mean generally you'd want to know what method they are using to count votes.
Tens of millions of US voters use closed-source voting machines during our elections. The companies who make the machines are generally a little too friendly with the Republican party (Diebold, Premier Election Systems, or whatever they recently changed their name to). I'm shocked at how few people care that so many votes are "counted" through Republican-friendly voting computers.
Funny, I googled "programmer testifies..." and the first autocomplete was "...about rigging elections": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjvtSquZkhs
Journalist Greg Palast also has evidence of electronic voter in Ohio in 2004. (Disclaimer: I have not delved deep on his claims, but the mere fact of their plausibility is deeply concerning.)
Re: Source code of Polish electoral voting system?
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#24Here's a Google Translate of the README.md file: Based on a cursory analysis of the executable file and application development can be concluded that the performance of the Election Calculator entrusted single Studénka, probably working for external contractors. Ms. Agnieszka, I really sympathize, we are with you! Poland is a country in which the fate of thousands of members of the committee rests on the shoulders of…
A "more English" translation could read: Based on a cursory analysis of the executable and application development, it's clear that the act of writing the Election Calculator was entrusted to a single (female) student, who was probably working for external contractors. Ms. Agnieszka, we really sympathize, we are with you! Poland is a country in which the fate of thousands of committee members rests on the shoulders o…
It is probably worth nothing that "female" is really a parenthetical. Source is simply using the appropriate Polish word (which is gendered). The translation could be read as implying that the person's gender has anything to do with the issues they've had, but source's wording doesn't really imply that. (They may have in fact wanted to imply that; but we can't determine that from the wording.)
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#25Haven't we all frowned upon picking on females in tech industry just yesterday?! It is NOT okay to wildly imply that the author of this code is of certain age and gender.
EDIT: it was shown by the comment below that it was actually written by someone with a popular Polish female name. I was shaken by the article yesterday and thus oversensitive. Sorry about that.
Re: Source code of Polish electoral voting system?
#26Leaked? Is the source code not public anyway? I mean generally you'd want to know what method they are using to count votes.
The method is widely known, but last weekend there were election with new system for reporting protocols from electoral commisions etc. and it appears to be quite huge swindle since it's been made in three months before elections and failed as fuck. Finally some of votes needed to be counted in Excel. Feel free to ask about details, because I'm from Poland and hadn't found any sufficient article about it.
That's a pretty good article in Polish, tackles the issue from more than one perspective: http://niebezpiecznik.pl/post/problemy-w-pkw-zliczanie-gloso...
Re: Source code of Polish electoral voting system?
#27Haven't we all frowned upon picking on females in tech industry just yesterday?! It is NOT okay to wildly imply that the author of this code is of certain age and gender. EDIT: it was shown by the comment below that it was actually written by someone with a popular Polish female name. I was shaken by the article yesterday and thus oversensitive. Sorry about that.
Totally agree. That was my first reaction after reading this. Not cool.
Re: Source code of Polish electoral voting system?
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
A "more English" translation could read: Based on a cursory analysis of the executable and application development, it's clear that the act of writing the Election Calculator was entrusted to a single (female) student, who was probably working for external contractors. Ms. Agnieszka, we really sympathize, we are with you! Poland is a country in which the fate of thousands of committee members rests on the shoulders o…
The fact that the programmer is female is mentioned implicitly - the female version of the “programmer” pronoun is used, the fact is not really stated anywhere. So it should not to taken as „the shoulders of a novice, female programmer” (in which the fact that she is female is stated explicitly and could be used to further put down the person's programming abilities) but as „the shoulders of a novice programmer”.
Well, that's the thing about Polish tongue (and many other too). Every single word does have a gender and you can't run away from it - in theory, masculine could represent gender-neutral meaning, but it would be very awkward to say (in Polish) "student" in one sentence and "Agnieszka" (Agnes) in the next one.
I don't find any emphasis on the sex of the person in question in the Polish text. It's only about experience and skill of the poor soul. Translations are hard because cultural context.
Re: Source code of Polish electoral voting system?
#29Haven't we all frowned upon picking on females in tech industry just yesterday?! It is NOT okay to wildly imply that the author of this code is of certain age and gender. EDIT: it was shown by the comment below that it was actually written by someone with a popular Polish female name. I was shaken by the article yesterday and thus oversensitive. Sorry about that.
Well, the implications are pretty well founded:
- the binary has strings like `C:\Users\Agnieszka\...\Visual Studio 2013\Projects\Kalkulator1`. Agnieszka is a female Polish name -> the programmer is female. Although nobody really is using this as a discussion point anywhere, but hey, the fact is there if it's interesting to you.
- the code logic and layout is pretty convoluted and looks duct taped together, even considering it's decompiled from binary form -> the author is probably young and inexperienced, and/or this was extremely rushed.
Also, I'm not realy sure where anyone is “picking on females” here.
Re: Source code of Polish electoral voting system?
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
A "more English" translation could read: Based on a cursory analysis of the executable and application development, it's clear that the act of writing the Election Calculator was entrusted to a single (female) student, who was probably working for external contractors. Ms. Agnieszka, we really sympathize, we are with you! Poland is a country in which the fate of thousands of committee members rests on the shoulders o…
The fact that the programmer is female is mentioned implicitly - the female version of the “programmer” pronoun is used, the fact is not really stated anywhere. So it should not to taken as „the shoulders of a novice, female programmer” (in which the fact that she is female is stated explicitly and could be used to further put down the person's programming abilities) but as „the shoulders of a novice programmer”.
Uhm, no, it is not.
Did you miss the "Pani Agnieszko, naprawdę współczujemy, jesteśmy z panią!"("Ms. Agnes, we're really sorry too, we're here for you")(that's a terrible translation, but oh well) part? There's absolutely no ambiguity here.