Can someone try to explain the metaphor of a public library in this case for me? It seems more like a radio broadcast; I feel like I'm missing something.
Outernet: Humanity's Public Library
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#12Also see https://projectmeshnet.org/
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#13The general idea sounds cool.
For the most part those people who are in the dark and don't have internet access, don't have a wifi enabled device and the luxury of having/maintaining a satellite receiver thingi to receive someones' offline sub-internet + "sponsored" content.
I hope google's balon project takes off sooner.
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#14Can someone try to explain the metaphor of a public library in this case for me? It seems more like a radio broadcast; I feel like I'm missing something.
What I understand of the project is that the Lanterns(the data receivers, which you can make yourself apparently http://outernet-project.github.io/orx-install/) store data received from the satellites on a daily basis. The information, which is voted by global citizens, is stored on it wherever you are on Earth, so you can access to sites like Wikipedia even if you are lost in the wood, for instance. But the goal of the project is not to make money but to give the opportunity to population of countries like China and North Korea (and many others) to access information otherwise censored in their country. So yeah, it's similar to a global radio broadcast.
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#15So how would the requests for information be routed up to the satellite? It's not like it can continuously beam down ALL the information all the time.
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#16Love the idea; don't like that they ultimately own the satellite. I would like to see a satellite similar to this, storing and broadcasting a queue of information, but that has a crypto-democractic method of submitting data to broadcast. Requests for data to broadcast submitted to the satellite must be accompanied by a Proof-of-Work. The required level of POW can be dynamically adjusted by the satellite itself based…
I'll note that your system still allows for the actual owner of the satellite to denial-of-service anything they want to.
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#17Love the idea; don't like that they ultimately own the satellite. I would like to see a satellite similar to this, storing and broadcasting a queue of information, but that has a crypto-democractic method of submitting data to broadcast. Requests for data to broadcast submitted to the satellite must be accompanied by a Proof-of-Work. The required level of POW can be dynamically adjusted by the satellite itself based…
Remember that much of wikipedia (and the internet in general) are considered 'illegal data' in some countries.
In this sense -- I believe that the idea here is to indeed broadcast illegal data. I find this project very interesting because it exploits the fact that we still have national laws in an increasingly international society. Because let's face it, whatever data they might broadcast it will likely be illegal somewhere.
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#18Can someone try to explain the metaphor of a public library in this case for me? It seems more like a radio broadcast; I feel like I'm missing something.
What I understand of the project is that the Lanterns(the data receivers, which you can make yourself apparently http://outernet-project.github.io/orx-install/ ) store data received from the satellites on a daily basis. The information, which is voted by global citizens, is stored on it wherever you are on Earth, so you can access to sites like Wikipedia even if you are lost in the wood, for instance. But the goal of…
> But the goal of the project is not to make money but to give the opportunity to population of countries like China and North Korea (and many others) to access information otherwise censored in their country.
This is a laudable goal, but if this became a threat then wouldn't their governments just jam the signal?
For example, China already does this with shortwave radio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_jamming_in_China
As this could completely undermine the project in large regions of the world, it seems like a huge operational risk.
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#19Love the idea; don't like that they ultimately own the satellite. I would like to see a satellite similar to this, storing and broadcasting a queue of information, but that has a crypto-democractic method of submitting data to broadcast. Requests for data to broadcast submitted to the satellite must be accompanied by a Proof-of-Work. The required level of POW can be dynamically adjusted by the satellite itself based…
Remember that much of wikipedia (and the internet in general) are considered 'illegal data' in some countries. In this sense -- I believe that the idea here is to indeed broadcast illegal data. I find this project very interesting because it exploits the fact that we still have national laws in an increasingly international society. Because let's face it, whatever data they might broadcast it will likely be illegal s…
It's effectively pirate radio for the internet age - broadcast outside the domain of law and thus avoid censorship.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Remember that much of wikipedia (and the internet in general) are considered 'illegal data' in some countries. In this sense -- I believe that the idea here is to indeed broadcast illegal data. I find this project very interesting because it exploits the fact that we still have national laws in an increasingly international society. Because let's face it, whatever data they might broadcast it will likely be illegal s…
It's effectively pirate radio for the internet age - broadcast outside the domain of law and thus avoid censorship.
That's exactly how I pitched it to our investor.