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Do the Most Hipster Thing Possible – Move to Des Moines

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Re: Do the Most Hipster Thing Possible – Move to Des Moines

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I travel from Chicago to Des Moines several times a year to visit my parents, and have seen much of what the city has to offer. Restaurants, music, culture are all fantastic. The local craft beer scene is growing like crazy, and most taprooms have prime spots along popular bike trails throughout the city. I'd consider a fantastic city for biking. And between Ragbrai and the HyVee Tri every year I'm reminded of how aw…

Man, I've done RAGBRAI twice, and that is some great fun. I have the century patch from my second go on my messenger bag, and I get people stopping me to chat about RAGBRAI whenever someone recognizes it.

Re: Do the Most Hipster Thing Possible – Move to Des Moines

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I think Minneapolis should be on that list. I don't live there anymore, having moved to the SFBA. I don't live in an urban area, but if I did I think it would be MPLS.

A friend of mine just moved to Minneapolis from the DC area. Incidentally, we were talking about this just yesterday and he told me he was surprised at how good the public spaces are there: lots of nice parks, walking/biking paths, urban infrastructure, bookstores, cafes, libraries, &c. Downside is the winter, but I guess that's what Thinsulate was invented for.

We had 53 days below zero in Minneapolis last year. 53.

We're off to a cool start this fall. a lake that usually freezes around Thanksgiving was covered with ice three days ago.

Re: Do the Most Hipster Thing Possible – Move to Des Moines

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As a Brit, pretty much all I know of Des Moines is what I've learned from Bill Bryson, the first line of his book "Travels in Small-Town America" is "I come from Des Moines. Somebody had to."

As a fellow Brit, all I know Slipknot came from Des Moines. But if it's good enough for the 'knot...

Re: Do the Most Hipster Thing Possible – Move to Des Moines

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The Social Club is now lodged in an old firehouse built in 1937, and has a theater, classrooms, bars, art gallery, and adjoining restaurant [...] Mannheimer created something that would have taken the rest his life and $300 million to complete if he'd stayed in New York. It took him seven years and $12 million.

Ok, I haven't seen Mannheimer's place, but something that matches this description just opened up across the street from me in Bushwick, Brooklyn. I guarantee that the hipsters who opened it didn't have a budget greater than $12 million, and nobody was thinking about this neighborhood more than a few years ago.

In other words, while New York can be a hard place, things still happen here, artists still live here and produce amazing work, and it's hard to imagine there's a better place for performing artists to work anywhere in the US. For some reason, there has been a move recently to declare the big coastal cities impossible to live in, yet they remain great places to live, which is why so many people want to live here.

On the other hand, if you're going to start a company and have an extremely limited budget, by all means do it somewhere other than NYC or SV. Artists need an audience. A tech company just needs an internet connection.

Edit: also, I want to address this quote: "In the world of hipsters, is there anything more ironic than coming to live in Des Moines, as opposed to living in Brooklyn?"

Anyone still talking about irony with regards to hipsters clearly has no idea what the kids in Bushwick are doing. These are the most earnest people you can imagine.

Re: Do the Most Hipster Thing Possible – Move to Des Moines

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If you're interested in alt-startup US cities, here's my list of places I would be interested in if I were a founder or early employee: 1. Boulder 2. Austin 3. Omaha 4. Des Moines 5. Reno (the real sleeper, but just look at the low, low business tax rate and proximity to SF). The above list isn't meant to be chiseled into stone—it's just a thought experiment on my part and I'm interested in what others think the pros…

I hear Austin is already getting tough: high rents forcing out exactly what made it cool in the first place.

I personally think the value of being in a hot well known startup city is overrated. My startup is in DC and we're doing fine.

Re: Do the Most Hipster Thing Possible – Move to Des Moines

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The Social Club is now lodged in an old firehouse built in 1937, and has a theater, classrooms, bars, art gallery, and adjoining restaurant [...] Mannheimer created something that would have taken the rest his life and $300 million to complete if he'd stayed in New York. It took him seven years and $12 million. Ok, I haven't seen Mannheimer's place, but something that matches this description just opened up across th…

A newly established startup that just needs an Internet connection maybe could be created anywhere - but a company, which at some point may want to bring in more seasoned talent as it grows, is probably better off near the coastal areas, with a few exceptions.

Re: Do the Most Hipster Thing Possible – Move to Des Moines

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If you're interested in alt-startup US cities, here's my list of places I would be interested in if I were a founder or early employee: 1. Boulder 2. Austin 3. Omaha 4. Des Moines 5. Reno (the real sleeper, but just look at the low, low business tax rate and proximity to SF). The above list isn't meant to be chiseled into stone—it's just a thought experiment on my part and I'm interested in what others think the pros…

I hear Austin is already getting tough: high rents forcing out exactly what made it cool in the first place. I personally think the value of being in a hot well known startup city is overrated. My startup is in DC and we're doing fine.

We actually visited Austin to move there, and found the rents/home pricing so much, that we would have to live in a distant cookie cutter home community. We went with Boston, because of bigger job market. Better public transportation and crappier weather (j/k).

Re: Do the Most Hipster Thing Possible – Move to Des Moines

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Minneapolis should be on that list. I don't live there anymore, having moved to the SFBA. I don't live in an urban area, but if I did I think it would be MPLS.

A friend of mine just moved to Minneapolis from the DC area. Incidentally, we were talking about this just yesterday and he told me he was surprised at how good the public spaces are there: lots of nice parks, walking/biking paths, urban infrastructure, bookstores, cafes, libraries, &c. Downside is the winter, but I guess that's what Thinsulate was invented for.

Des Moines gets similar comments, and we have less snow. I went up to Minneapolis for a conference last summer. They had 2-3 feet of snow on the ground. I haven't seen more than 6" in central Iowa in a very long time.

Oh, and central Iowa has over 600 miles of bicycle trail.

Re: Do the Most Hipster Thing Possible – Move to Des Moines

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If you're interested in alt-startup US cities, here's my list of places I would be interested in if I were a founder or early employee: 1. Boulder 2. Austin 3. Omaha 4. Des Moines 5. Reno (the real sleeper, but just look at the low, low business tax rate and proximity to SF). The above list isn't meant to be chiseled into stone—it's just a thought experiment on my part and I'm interested in what others think the pros…

No PDX? Half the cost of SF or the Valley, located conveniently between SF and Seattle.

Re: Do the Most Hipster Thing Possible – Move to Des Moines

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It is interesting that not more satellite areas around SF are rising centres of startups. Even Sacramento, which is quite near, does not seem to much activity. Anyone know why?

This is just a guess, but perhaps there is a perception that, being so close, why not just move the rest of the way to SF?

Ever looked at the cost difference between Sacramento and San Fran?

That's your reason.

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