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Re: Caltech professor claims Israeli spy infiltrated JPL

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Post by tacon »

“JPL is the cornerstone of Caltech’s financial security,” Stormer said. “It makes them one of the foremost research institutions in the world. Without it, Caltech is just a backwater institution with very bright people. They could not get the people here that they have without the access to the research facilities at JPL. It is what makes Caltech Caltech.”

I don't know about the merits of the case, but this kind of wild statement is embarrassing. JPL is lucky to have Caltech close at hand, not the other way around.

Re: Caltech professor claims Israeli spy infiltrated JPL

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Post by salimmadjd »

This is not surprising. Israel is the number-one allied country spying in America [1]

The problem is that with so many Israeli supporters in either of the administration [2] as well as in the FBI and on many campuses, any allegation of spying by whistleblowers is reacted by extreme retaliations. This is why we don't hear about it more often.

This is not a new issue [3] from Pollard [4] to Rosen [5], recently

[1] http://www.businessinsider.com/israeli-spying-on-us-has-reac...

[2] http://www.thenation.com/blog/spy-story-harman-saban-and-aip...

[3] http://archive.lewrockwell.com/ips/lobe122.html

[4] http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/2014/0401/Who-is-Jon...

[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Franklin,_Rose...

edited: typo

Re: Caltech professor claims Israeli spy infiltrated JPL

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Post by mturmon »

tacon wrote: post #2

“JPL is the cornerstone of Caltech’s financial security,” Stormer said. “It makes them one of the foremost research institutions in the world. Without it, Caltech is just a backwater institution with very bright people. They could not get the people here that they have without the access to the research facilities at JPL. It is what makes Caltech Caltech.” I don't know about the merits of the case, but this kind of w…

It's a symbiotic relationship. Her lawyer's statement is crazy, but there is a nugget of fact there. JPL is much larger than Caltech, both in terms of budget and personnel. (http://www.caltech.edu/content/glance). I assume that is what his statement is getting at.

Re: Caltech professor claims Israeli spy infiltrated JPL

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Post by 001sky »

mturmon wrote: post #4
tacon wrote: post #2

“JPL is the cornerstone of Caltech’s financial security,” Stormer said. “It makes them one of the foremost research institutions in the world. Without it, Caltech is just a backwater institution with very bright people. They could not get the people here that they have without the access to the research facilities at JPL. It is what makes Caltech Caltech.” I don't know about the merits of the case, but this kind of w…

It's a symbiotic relationship. Her lawyer's statement is crazy, but there is a nugget of fact there. JPL is much larger than Caltech, both in terms of budget and personnel. ( http://www.caltech.edu/content/glance ). I assume that is what his statement is getting at.

Employees (1)

    JPL: 5,000
    Caltech: 3,900
Budget

    JPL: $1.5 billion
    Campus: $580 million

Re: Caltech professor claims Israeli spy infiltrated JPL

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Post by mattfishburn »

tacon wrote: post #2

“JPL is the cornerstone of Caltech’s financial security,” Stormer said. “It makes them one of the foremost research institutions in the world. Without it, Caltech is just a backwater institution with very bright people. They could not get the people here that they have without the access to the research facilities at JPL. It is what makes Caltech Caltech.” I don't know about the merits of the case, but this kind of w…

JPL's budget is about three times that of non-JPL CalTech[1], $1.5B vs $580M. The "cornerstone" remark is accurate from a financial point of view.

[1] http://www.caltech.edu/content/glance

Re: Caltech professor claims Israeli spy infiltrated JPL

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Post by 001sky »

salimmadjd wrote: post #3

This is not surprising. Israel is the number-one allied country spying in America [1] The problem is that with so many Israeli supporters in either of the administration [2] as well as in the FBI and on many campuses, any allegation of spying by whistleblowers is reacted by extreme retaliations. This is why we don't hear about it more often. This is not a new issue [3] from Pollard [4] to Rosen [5], recently [1] http…

Savoire/faire is every/where!

http://www.businessinsider.com/nazi-scientists-space-program...

Re: Caltech professor claims Israeli spy infiltrated JPL

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Post by mturmon »

The legal filing has (much) more --

http://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/wp-content/uploads/201...

I found one surprising thing in the complaint. If a JPL supervisor was told about an ITAR violation, there would be an immediate investigation with 100% certainty. It would be a matter of hours, not months as is alleged.

There are two workplace rule violations you can go to jail for, ITAR and time card fraud -- these are criminal, not civil, matters. So the complaint is making extremely serious accusations.

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