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Why Is Google Blocking Inbox on Firefox?

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Re: Why Is Google Blocking Inbox on Firefox?

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Post by custardcream »

cognivore wrote: post #39

There's not really a good reason for Google to make applications they create work outside their own run-time environment - Chrome. Any technical reason they might offer (sparse array performance) is just facetious. They have the technical know-how to solve such problems, but business wise it makes little sense. I use three web browsers for just that reason. Chrome for Google products (YouTube, Gmail, now Inbox, etc.)…

Yes there is. It's the world wide web. An interoperable universal interaction standard. Or it was until Google started pulling an IE6 game.

I use Firefox for everything because there is no central motivation to specialise. If a site doesn't work well, it doesn't get my business.

Re: Why Is Google Blocking Inbox on Firefox?

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Post by johnward »

josteink wrote: post #2

> I'm not 100% sure on how the browsers implementation differs with CSP but there is a main difference in that there seems to be no CSP protected between Google domains in Google Chrome If this is true, does this mean that Google is short-cutting internet-security for their own applications in their own browser? Or am I reading this all wrong?

That's the way I read it too and I'm surprised no one else has mentioned this. Unless I'm missing something Google is allowing XSS for their own domains in chrome.

Re: Why Is Google Blocking Inbox on Firefox?

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Post by custardcream »

qnk wrote: post #12

Google is not the same it wanted to be back in 2009 [1]: Today, we base our developer products on open standards because interoperability is a critical element of user choice. [1] http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/meaning-of-open.html

Yes. It's now Microsoft circa 2001.

Re: Why Is Google Blocking Inbox on Firefox?

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Post by debacle »

transfire wrote: post #4

Google's attempt to take over email does not sit with me well. We need better email. But email is too important to be proprietary. We need open standards here. And we need open source developers to kick it in high gear to create better email clients.

Since you can be pretty sure that Google reads and hands over your email just as much as Microsoft does, you should give outlook.com a chance. It has a really nice UI for personal email and, apart from a few UI deviations, is pretty much the same as Gmail was before they started trying to make it "better."

Re: Why Is Google Blocking Inbox on Firefox?

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Post by gcb0 »

couchand wrote: post #26
diggan wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I know, given the right vendor prefixes, transitions works mostly the same way on both platforms. I don't think it makes sense to only have transitions for one browser when it's trivial to support other browsers as well. The CSP issue I honestly don't know why that's so but I'm fairly sure they should be able to follow CSP on their own domains, just like the rest of the applications on the web have to do. To me,…

To me, it feels like Google has an unfair advantage on doing web applications when they can do stuff on their own domains that no one else can, unless they also develop their own browser with unique features. And legally dangerous, too. It's as if they forgot entirely about the half a billion Euros Microsoft shelled out for doing precisely the same thing.

or they bought the right people this time and are sure to be free from that fate.

remember that Microsoft wasn't sued out of the blue. competitor companies lobbied for it. if Google lobbies first they should be fine.

Re: Why Is Google Blocking Inbox on Firefox?

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Post by gcb0 »

hokkos wrote: post #32

Google Inbox is using between 365MB and 460MB, when Ghostery and Add Block Edge is activated, it is more than 600MB. This is where multi process seems to be useful (otherwise it is using much more memory for no real gains), and extensions can be really taxing sometimes.

why do you even bring that up?

also, unless you know what's on that memory and also tell us about total ram I'm just writing this off as anecdotal cache usage.

Re: Why Is Google Blocking Inbox on Firefox?

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Post by eloisant »

custardcream wrote: post #43
qnk wrote: post #12

Google is not the same it wanted to be back in 2009 [1]: Today, we base our developer products on open standards because interoperability is a critical element of user choice. [1] http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/meaning-of-open.html

Yes. It's now Microsoft circa 2001.

Considering Microsoft is now Open Sourcing dotnet and releasing it for OSX and Linux, at what point did Google and Microsoft crossed each other?

Re: Why Is Google Blocking Inbox on Firefox?

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Post by untothebreach »

custardcream wrote: post #41
cognivore wrote: post #39

There's not really a good reason for Google to make applications they create work outside their own run-time environment - Chrome. Any technical reason they might offer (sparse array performance) is just facetious. They have the technical know-how to solve such problems, but business wise it makes little sense. I use three web browsers for just that reason. Chrome for Google products (YouTube, Gmail, now Inbox, etc.)…

Yes there is. It's the world wide web. An interoperable universal interaction standard. Or it was until Google started pulling an IE6 game. I use Firefox for everything because there is no central motivation to specialise. If a site doesn't work well, it doesn't get my business.

I'm with you. The day Google announced Inbox, and the fact that it wouldn't work with Firefox, was the day I finally got motivated enough to set up my own email server. I ended up just using mail-in-a-box, which doesn't come with the _best_ client, but is good enough, and I can use it from any browser I want without any problems.
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