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German Cloud Company Offering Free Heat If You Have Room for Some of Its Servers

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Re: German Cloud Company Offering Free Heat If You Have Room for Some of Its Servers

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Post by iancarroll »

johnbaum1968 wrote: post #24
kriro wrote: post #21

They only mention that the company pays for the internet service but I'd assume traffic/speed from a home could also be an issue. I mean the average home network connections aren't exactly amazing so what can be hosted on these servers (I doubt it's cost efficient to provide new infrastructure for every home)?

> A prerequisite for the use of Cloud&Heat is [...] an Internet connection of at least 50 Mbit/s https://www.cloudandheat.com/en/index.html#heat-three

Which is contradicted by the last FAQ:

> Cloud&Heat sets up a separate Internet connection for server operation and bears all costs of this as well as liability for any damage.

Re: German Cloud Company Offering Free Heat If You Have Room for Some of Its Servers

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Post by innguest »

reduce wrote: post #27
k__ wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not possible here in germany. Even if they want to "raid" my flat-mate, they can't go to my rooms while doing it.

Very interesting. I bet that will be a big selling point for people considering this hosting service. Seems that it will be harder to put pressure on hundreds of individual residents, than it is to do so to a big centralized datacenter provider company.

Scroll up a bit and you will see this comment:

> Ladies and Gentlemen, i present: Bullshit. I wish companies with no clue about encryption would stop making these insane claims.

Which is rude and does not make a cogent argument, and yet 3 people asked for clarification instead of downvoting it.

The (lack of a) downvoting policy here is abysmal and no one wants to talk about it.

Re: German Cloud Company Offering Free Heat If You Have Room for Some of Its Servers

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Post by S_A_P »

hrnnnnnn wrote: post #26

Excerpts from the contract: "We install The Device in your house, free of charge. You receive heat. Do not ask about the function of The Device." "You may hear a human voice coming from inside The Device. Ignore it." "Some customers report having recurring dreams about The Device, this is normal." "The Device comes in one colour: Impenetrable Blackness." "Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your fa…

Who says Germans have no sense of humor????

Re: German Cloud Company Offering Free Heat If You Have Room for Some of Its Servers

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Post by scott_karana »

Xylakant wrote: post #43
valarauca1 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This doesn't solve the problem. Unless the cabinet is air tight, and uses a pressure sensor to detect itself being opened. It's "Is the cabinet open?" subroutine can be defeated by simply opening the cabinet where a sensor isn't located. Basically cut the sucker open on the side. :.:.: Also by using a time sharing OS its likely you can induce a large network based load externally slowing its IO speed to the level you…

A possible approach would be: keep the data encrypted, just decrypt it at the endpoint. Tarsnap for example does that. Or keep the keys on servers that are acting as proxies and decrypt the data. Or actually loose all data on door opening. Just drop it and use a replication like backblaze and S3 use. A harddrive lost? Allocate a shard somewhere else. A unit looses enough harddrives to require service? Just pull it, t…

The rack is for asynchronous, data-heavy loads. I doubt "storing unencryptable data on a slow pipe" fits with that goal :)

Re: German Cloud Company Offering Free Heat If You Have Room for Some of Its Servers

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Post by to3m »

S_A_P wrote: post #63
hrnnnnnn wrote: post #26

Excerpts from the contract: "We install The Device in your house, free of charge. You receive heat. Do not ask about the function of The Device." "You may hear a human voice coming from inside The Device. Ignore it." "Some customers report having recurring dreams about The Device, this is normal." "The Device comes in one colour: Impenetrable Blackness." "Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your fa…

Who says Germans have no sense of humor????

Who says they do...

Re: German Cloud Company Offering Free Heat If You Have Room for Some of Its Servers

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Post by mikeash »

iancarroll wrote: post #61
johnbaum1968 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A prerequisite for the use of Cloud&Heat is [...] an Internet connection of at least 50 Mbit/s https://www.cloudandheat.com/en/index.html#heat-three

Which is contradicted by the last FAQ: > Cloud&Heat sets up a separate Internet connection for server operation and bears all costs of this as well as liability for any damage.

Maybe they mean the ability to obtain a 50Mbps connection?

Re: German Cloud Company Offering Free Heat If You Have Room for Some of Its Servers

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Post by drivingmenuts »

"So, you'd like a CloudenHeatenDevicenGlaven in your haus, ja?"

"Yep."

"That ... does not sound German to me."

"Yeah, well, ... "

"I think you are a spy. Looking to take advantage of our generosity, ja? Und maybe in ze middle of the nacht you installen the spying thing on our box, mit your little NSA spying thing?"

"Haha! Those don't exist. The NSA? That actually stands for No Such Agency, dude. I mean, freund ... fraud ... you know, ich bin ein jelly donut and all that."

"You are sure you are not this spy?"

"Yep, er ... ja."

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