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Re: Dolphin – The Rise of HLE Audio

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Post by robin_reala » Wed, Nov 12, 2014, 11:10 PM UTC

cdr wrote: post #10

archagon wrote: post #6

I recently tried running Dolphin on my Macbook after a long hiatus, and was shocked to discover that my games were now running at a buttery 60fps. What's more, there are practically no glitches to be seen or heard anymore. When I last tried booting up my games about a year ago, all I could get was about 45fps at 1x resolution. Now I can have my Wii games with me wherever I go. It's stunning how quickly the Dolphin te…

If you follow the (extremely well written) monthly progress updates on the blog, Dolphin has been seeing speedups in the range of 100% per month in some of the past few months. Pretty incredible. https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/

I guess they’ve hit stage three of make it work, make it correct, make it fast.

Re: Dolphin – The Rise of HLE Audio

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Post by neue » Wed, Nov 12, 2014, 11:14 PM UTC

Animats wrote: post #2

All this is about fixing a bug in some emulator for an 2001-vintage video game console.

Seriously?

I'll start off with what should be the obvious - Dolphin runs Gamecube and Wii games. Not only does it run said games, but it runs them INCREDIBLY well. Much better than it did a year ago, and arguably better than the consoles run the games itself.

Hell, running some games at 4x resolution will get better performance than the consoles would at their default resolution. That's insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UouyVg70kRM

That's 1080p and 60fps. Yes, there are some dropped frames but that's a given seeing how he's recording. It's still WAY higher than the Wii generally runs games - I don't even think the Wii plays games in 720p even (stretching the image doesn't really count here).

Anyways, this is a great example of how having a project like this being open sourced can help development. Dolphin is a great emulator and you can't deny that.

Also worth a quick read: http://www.pcgamer.com/how-gamecubewii-emulator-dolphin-got-...

Re: Dolphin – The Rise of HLE Audio

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Post by mparlane » Wed, Nov 12, 2014, 11:16 PM UTC

robin_reala wrote: post #11

cdr wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you follow the (extremely well written) monthly progress updates on the blog, Dolphin has been seeing speedups in the range of 100% per month in some of the past few months. Pretty incredible. https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/

I guess they’ve hit stage three of make it work, make it correct, make it fast.

Well we were once at a point where we had fast+working, as we added correct we lost speed. Now some of the devs are just re-adding that speed and others are making it even more correct :)

Re: Dolphin – The Rise of HLE Audio

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Post by mikeash » Thu, Nov 13, 2014, 12:14 AM UTC

Animats wrote: post #2

All this is about fixing a bug in some emulator for an 2001-vintage video game console.

Quite an appropriate topic here, wouldn't you agree?

Re: Dolphin – The Rise of HLE Audio

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Post by acmecorps » Thu, Nov 13, 2014, 12:16 AM UTC

archagon wrote: post #6

I recently tried running Dolphin on my Macbook after a long hiatus, and was shocked to discover that my games were now running at a buttery 60fps. What's more, there are practically no glitches to be seen or heard anymore. When I last tried booting up my games about a year ago, all I could get was about 45fps at 1x resolution. Now I can have my Wii games with me wherever I go. It's stunning how quickly the Dolphin te…

Wow, I wished mine is as good. My average is between 40-50fps, and sometimes glitches happened. May I know what's your MBP's specs?

Re: Dolphin – The Rise of HLE Audio

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Post by delinom » Thu, Nov 13, 2014, 3:37 AM UTC

archildress wrote: post #8

Mithaldu wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is about the same thing that the Internet Archive is about: Preserving culture. That is also why the developers prefer accuracy over anything else. At some point in the future the actual machines that run these games, along with the data stores for these games, will all be broken or otherwise incapable of functioning. However as long as there is machinery that can run these emulators, or emulate an OS that can r…

I'm a longtime emulator fanatic, but have seriously never considered this idea that emulation ensures future generations can experience a part of culture. So insightful. Thanks for sharing.

I recommend you to read up on byuu's work. He's the author of bSNES, an accuracy-oriented emulator for the SNES.

This article is a bit old, but it's a good start: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/08/accuracy-takes-power-o...

Re: Dolphin – The Rise of HLE Audio

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Post by ekianjo » Thu, Nov 13, 2014, 4:15 AM UTC

cdr wrote: post #10

archagon wrote: post #6

I recently tried running Dolphin on my Macbook after a long hiatus, and was shocked to discover that my games were now running at a buttery 60fps. What's more, there are practically no glitches to be seen or heard anymore. When I last tried booting up my games about a year ago, all I could get was about 45fps at 1x resolution. Now I can have my Wii games with me wherever I go. It's stunning how quickly the Dolphin te…

If you follow the (extremely well written) monthly progress updates on the blog, Dolphin has been seeing speedups in the range of 100% per month in some of the past few months. Pretty incredible. https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/

> seeing speedups in the range of 100% per month

Not for all games, as far as I can remember.

Re: Dolphin – The Rise of HLE Audio

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Post by wingerlang » Thu, Nov 13, 2014, 7:43 AM UTC

robin_reala wrote: post #11

cdr wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you follow the (extremely well written) monthly progress updates on the blog, Dolphin has been seeing speedups in the range of 100% per month in some of the past few months. Pretty incredible. https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/

I guess they’ve hit stage three of make it work, make it correct, make it fast.

If I recall correctly they are very much focusing on making it /work/ rather than making it /correct/. Which seems to be a very important distinction in emulators.

I know you probably didn't even mean that, but still.

Re: Dolphin – The Rise of HLE Audio

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Post by aikah » Thu, Nov 13, 2014, 7:43 AM UTC

Does Dolphin use JIT like PPSSPP? I have a crappy 2008 Macbook,and PSP games run incredibly well on it. I understand the Gamecube has more powerfull specs,but even on my PC Dolphin games were quite slow 2/3 years ago. I need to try running MSG 1 again to check the progress.

Re: Dolphin – The Rise of HLE Audio

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Post by Jasper_ » Thu, Nov 13, 2014, 7:52 AM UTC

aikah wrote: post #19

Does Dolphin use JIT like PPSSPP? I have a crappy 2008 Macbook,and PSP games run incredibly well on it. I understand the Gamecube has more powerfull specs,but even on my PC Dolphin games were quite slow 2/3 years ago. I need to try running MSG 1 again to check the progress.

Dolphin indeed has a JIT ( https://github.com/dolphin-emu/dolphin/tree/master/Source/Co... ). Fiora has also done her magic in the past few months to make the JIT better and faster than ever.