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Aurora - New MySQL-Compatible Database Engine

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Re: Aurora - New MySQL-Compatible Database Engine

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Google Cloud Platform.

In his defence even googling GCP doesn't return that as a result on the first page. I was searching for the same thing.

GCP is largely used as the acronym for "Good Clinical Practice" and has been around a heck of a lot longer than Google.

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(Disclaimer: I work for an AWS competitor.) To me, there is a very interesting contrast to be had between this announcement and Microsoft's announcement: it feels like Microsoft is discovering the business value of being open at the same time that Amazon is living in the time warp of proprietary everything. Has Microsoft internalized that open source is (or can be) a differentiator in the cloud? Amazon is clearly sti…

Amazon is way ahead of everyone else in the cloud space. Their closest rivals (Microsoft & Google) are pretty much copying AWS. Most of Azure's services are equally proprietary and I doubt that will ever change. This just leaves the other smaller players (DigitalOcean, Joyent, Rackspace, etc) who are mostly offering something akin to EC2 and then partnering with other vendors to offer the missing pieces on top (frank…

i agree with this comment completely. As an aws user, they have just done a great job in the cloud space. For anyone to really over take them, they'll have to come up with something radically different because the product is that good.

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ignore OpenStack at your peril.

Why? Serious question. OpenStack's model seems to be "clone what Amazon does, 18 months later then hand over to vendors who don't have the scale to match Amazon's prices" It's kind of nice in theory for internal clouds. But I'm increasingly seeing tooling targeting Docker instead of OpenStack at the service level for doing the same kinds of things OpenStack is supposed to offer (ie, the service utilities Docker to of…

Because renting bare metal servers and put your cloud on it is cheaper and better in a lot of cases.

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Why mysql? Why not postgres engine?

This is likely for the people who for whatever reason just aren't willing to switch to Postgres.

There are a lot of apps with complete ecosystems that aren't going to port to PostgreSQL anytime soon. Wordpress is the poster-child for this pattern. Yes, you can bring it up on PostgreSQL, and some modules support it, but from what I've heard, it's pretty spotty and most of the popular modules do not support it.

Re: Aurora - New MySQL-Compatible Database Engine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In his defence even googling GCP doesn't return that as a result on the first page. I was searching for the same thing.

GCP is largely used as the acronym for "Good Clinical Practice" and has been around a heck of a lot longer than Google.

Most acronyms (especially TLAs) get overloaded daily. Being first means next to nothing, in this space.

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oh neat, AWS following GCP instead of the other way around.

care to explain?

CloudSQL on gce is mysql on bigtable afaicr, its been around for a few years.

EDIT: actually it looks like cloudsql might actually be a mysql.. also on gce they max out 16gb of ram and 100gb of storage

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Of course Amazon wants vendor lock-in. Their whole business model is about being a marketplace. Do you want them to open-source their shopping cart software? And in Amazon Web Services, the biggest thing Amazon has to fear is the OpenStack initiative producing a platform that lots of little hosts can host. At the same time, Amazon is stock market time bomb that will either start extracting monopoly rents and draw reg…

> And in Amazon Web Services, the biggest thing Amazon has to fear is the OpenStack initiative producing a platform that lots of little hosts can host. I highly doubt OpenStack alone can make it possible for smaller players to replicate AWS's economics of scale, or even come particularly close. From what I understand Amazon doesn't just plop their software on commodity hardware, they use highly specialized gear optim…

that's almost all wrong. it's mostly commodity hardware, and their margins are thin only because they're a gigantic company. smaller companies can and do offer much better pricing, they just don't have the marketing budget to convince you of it.

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What is the use of a cloud relational database service? I thought everybody is going for Document Based databases.

If your data is fundamentally relational you're better off putting it into a relational DB. http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2013/11/11/why-you-should-never...

I think the down votes to this are unfair, think you cor posting an enlightening response to someone who appears to be very ill informed :)

Re: Aurora - New MySQL-Compatible Database Engine

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Ouch. This pricing is pretty rough for SaaS sold on the premise of cloud scalability.

At $200/month for the entry level, their lowest price is many times what the cheapest geo-replicated "SQL engine as a service" from Google or Microsoft is. I'm not sure how the performance differs, but I am guessing theirs are no slouches.

Microsoft offers "SQL Database" geo-replicated for as low as $15/mo., and it scales up from there. Not sure about performance, but it would be apples to oranges (MySQL versus SQL Server) and difficult to compare. I wonder what the TPC numbers are, but apparently the TPC organization doesn't allow publishing that yet.

Google offers "Google Cloud SQL", also geo-replicated, and their cheapest pricing is between $10 and $18 dollars a month.

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