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A terrible tragedy: Dan Haubert of Ticketstumbler (fallentimes) has passed away

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Re: A terrible tragedy: Dan Haubert of Ticketstumbler (fallentimes) has passed away

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Suicide.

Creativity saved me. Please, be creative, always. :| I'm really sorry.

In a bout of major depression, creativity is just lost. The feeling that I will never get it back was a main source feeding suicidal thinking. Luckily, I sought treatment, and an analyst told me that this is normal, that it's part of the illness, and that basically nobody can be creative while being clinically depressed (yes, I was in a clinic at that time). That helped, at least a little.

I'm fighting, and I'm slowly getting it back. But it's hard.

Re: A terrible tragedy: Dan Haubert of Ticketstumbler (fallentimes) has passed away

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In the greater context of start-ups and the pressures associated with that, it's not just 'young kids dying', it is 'young kids working on start-ups dying'. I realize that some people are of a mindset where 'failure is not an option', and this in and of itself brings some risks with it. No clue what the factors are in this particular case beyond what's in this thread but I've seen people literally break because of th…

I'm not sure it's fair to point to a trend from a sample set of one. The other guy was killed in a car crash; it'd be pretty hard to peg that to being part of a startup.

Again, look at our poll: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=849650

This is not "a sample set of one". There's a pattern here.

Re: A terrible tragedy: Dan Haubert of Ticketstumbler (fallentimes) has passed away

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Tom, my condolences on your loss, to you and to Dan's family & friends.

I fondly remember Dan's comments, his thinking & approach to challenges, and how it was always an opportunity to get things done whatever the odds.

We will miss you, Dan.

Re: A terrible tragedy: Dan Haubert of Ticketstumbler (fallentimes) has passed away

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I'm not sure it's fair to point to a trend from a sample set of one. The other guy was killed in a car crash; it'd be pretty hard to peg that to being part of a startup.

Again, look at our poll: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=849650 This is not "a sample set of one". There's a pattern here.

Polls in the past here have also shown that most of the readers of HN are not involved in startups. There's also a big difference between "being in a funk" and killing yourself.

This situation is truly tragic, and I believe we'd all like to understand what exactly pushed Dan over the edge -- we'd like for there to be a reason that could somehow be instructive -- but from the information out there, we don't have that. As such, it's really a reach to assume that this is because he's a founder.

Re: A terrible tragedy: Dan Haubert of Ticketstumbler (fallentimes) has passed away

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You keep it hidden because for every 1 person who takes your advice and helps you out there are 5 who will write you off as a serious person for the rest of your life. Edit: I'm not saying this is right/wrong, but there are real consequences to outing oneself as a depressive.

What? "You keep it hidden because for every 1 person who takes your advice and helps you out there are 5 who will write you off as a serious person for the rest of your life. Edit: I'm not saying this is right/wrong, but there are real consequences to outing oneself as a depressive." What are the consequences? After dealing with OCD and social anxiety issues from 18 to 28, I finally started to open up and talk about…

What do you do when you don't feel like eliciting pity? IMO if you do this people will treat you as an oddity and try and take care of you. F that. RIP Dan, I feel for you.

Re: A terrible tragedy: Dan Haubert of Ticketstumbler (fallentimes) has passed away

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You keep it hidden because for every 1 person who takes your advice and helps you out there are 5 who will write you off as a serious person for the rest of your life. Edit: I'm not saying this is right/wrong, but there are real consequences to outing oneself as a depressive.

There are people (who keep this stuff confidential) to talk to though. You have to pay them and it can be difficult to find one that just doesn't want to blame the past instead of helping you move forward. But these people do exist and are helpful. I suggest finding someone who knows something about cognitive behavioral therapy. I agree with a sibling comment here that it is vital to talk through these things. If you…

Drugs drugs drugs, money money money. Seems like a poor ROI in most cases. I've gone, they tried to give me antidepressants even when I said I didn't want them. Worst money I ever spent.

Re: A terrible tragedy: Dan Haubert of Ticketstumbler (fallentimes) has passed away

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This is very sad. I just submitted my application for Winter 2010 yesterday and just begun to learn about Hacker News, participate, .. and Boom! I read about Dan and find out how a great guy he was and that he has committed suicide. This is an unlucky first sad impression for me and this forum, but it also has served, by reading through all your comments, to quickly find out what a tight and supportive community the YCombinator crowd is. My condolences to all those who knew him.

Re: A terrible tragedy: Dan Haubert of Ticketstumbler (fallentimes) has passed away

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Fuck. I never had the chance to meet Dan, but he gave us extensive feedback on our w2009 app. Of all the YC folks who responded to my cold emails asking for feedback, Dan went the furthest in terms of writing several rounds of very lengthy and thoughtful critiques of our application, giving me his cell phone number for any questions, even putting in a good word with PG for us.

In our correspondence back and forth, he always struck me as an incredibly intelligent, humble, and generous guy who would do anything to help others succeed. He closed one of his last emails to me with this:

Be sure to keep me in the loop. Few things are more gratifying than seeing casual acquaintances & friends make money doing what they love. As always, I'm just one person - do what your gut tells you.

This is so senseless, and I'm having trouble understanding it. PG said it best: the world is a poorer place without him.

Rest in peace, Dan.

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