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Why College Is a Poor Choice for a Lot of People

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Re: Why College Is a Poor Choice for a Lot of People

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I want so badly to leave college. It's very difficult to stomach the $20k it's costing my parents. I'm not having fun. I'm not making many connections. I'm not learning much in the classroom at all. I feel unchallenged, I feel bored, but the worst of it is I know I could be working harder somewhere else, and learning more in the process. I should have had the foresight to know the interest I had in highschool for pro…

Sorry to hear you are not having a good time.

In any case, college is what you make of it; it might sound obnoxious but if it's boring, that's on you. Challenge yourself by taking more challenging classes, by going deeper than the professor requires in your current classes; take graduate level classes, arrange research or independent study with a professor. Learn new fields to diversify yourself, or to learn about the world -- get a double major in Chinese, Indian history, literature, experimental psychology. Access to the amount of expertise around you, with the availability to talk to you, will never happen again. They won't have time for you, and worse you won't have time for them.

> I'm only in my third semester ... I've taken most all of my CS classes and now I'll just be taking random classes completely unrelated to my major to get a piece of paper.

You are in your third semester and have almost completed your major? In computer science? Wow. There is so much more you could learn!

Re: Why College Is a Poor Choice for a Lot of People

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I recently stopped going to college (a few months ago). I've been thinking about the decision for around two years now and it was the best decision I've ever made. I have never been as productive and generally happy as I have after leaving classes. What I agree most with the article is that college is not the correct decision for those who already know what they want to do or have a specific goal in mind. Attending c…

It depends... I know that most of what I learn in cooledge is "worthless" - but the paper itself holds some value.

I got an AA in CIS and immediately took the first job within range (I live in farmland, so programming jobs aren't exactly normal within range). The paper got my foot in the door, but now I have provable experience and solid, real references.

I'm still going to school, slowly working towards my BA. I have experience, so why am I getting my BA? Because there are opportunities I've been passed over simply due to AA vs BA/MBA/etc.

The key is to actually think about things and balance what you want and the cost of college. For too many the only goal is paper, without a thought to how that translates into green. Thus you end up with a 100k piece of paper with someone working at McDonalds or Star Bucks.

I'm using accredited classes, at an affordable accredited school - affordable is the important part. I will have my BA with no debt to show and years of experience in the field I've chosen.

Re: Why College Is a Poor Choice for a Lot of People

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I want so badly to leave college. It's very difficult to stomach the $20k it's costing my parents. I'm not having fun. I'm not making many connections. I'm not learning much in the classroom at all. I feel unchallenged, I feel bored, but the worst of it is I know I could be working harder somewhere else, and learning more in the process. I should have had the foresight to know the interest I had in highschool for pro…

I felt the way you're feeling not too long ago. I'm open to talk to you if you want, shoot me an email ge.espitia@gmail.com.

Re: Why College Is a Poor Choice for a Lot of People

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post #51

I recently stopped going to college (a few months ago). I've been thinking about the decision for around two years now and it was the best decision I've ever made. I have never been as productive and generally happy as I have after leaving classes. What I agree most with the article is that college is not the correct decision for those who already know what they want to do or have a specific goal in mind. Attending c…

It depends... I know that most of what I learn in cooledge is "worthless" - but the paper itself holds some value. I got an AA in CIS and immediately took the first job within range (I live in farmland, so programming jobs aren't exactly normal within range). The paper got my foot in the door, but now I have provable experience and solid, real references. I'm still going to school, slowly working towards my BA. I hav…

I agree. It really depends. As I mentioned, I feel if you have a goal or vision for what you want, then you can really make the decision. Sounds like you've got your goals set and if college is a part of that, great, that's what I consider success. As Earl Nightingale said, "Success is the progressive realization of a worthy goal or ideal".

Re: Why College Is a Poor Choice for a Lot of People

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I want so badly to leave college. It's very difficult to stomach the $20k it's costing my parents. I'm not having fun. I'm not making many connections. I'm not learning much in the classroom at all. I feel unchallenged, I feel bored, but the worst of it is I know I could be working harder somewhere else, and learning more in the process. I should have had the foresight to know the interest I had in highschool for pro…

I felt the same way. Just remember that it's those other people who are wasting their time in college. It doesn't have to be you. Start pushing yourself now and you'll come out way ahead of your classmates. And make sure to go out of your way to find those few classmates who actually give a shit about learning. I didn't do that and regret it now.

And you're only 3 semesters in. I doubt you're out of CS classes to take. Take the ridiculously hard CS classes that no one else wants to. Take graduate level courses. And enjoy the random classes completely unrelated to your major, you never know when they'll be useful to you. My favorite class in college was an American history class and I was a CS major. Who cares? It was a great class and I feel all the more educated for it. You shouldn't just be there to take CS.

Re: Why College Is a Poor Choice for a Lot of People

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skipping college is probably controversial because you can't make a distinction between doing it because of laziness or because of passion. at the bottom of your heart you know which one it is.

the problem with doing something else is that you will, still, take yourself with you. if high school was crap, now college is crap - it's likely that other thing is going to be crap too.

why don't you do something on the side instead of "smoking and drinking" with people you don't care?

Re: Why College Is a Poor Choice for a Lot of People

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I want so badly to leave college. It's very difficult to stomach the $20k it's costing my parents. I'm not having fun. I'm not making many connections. I'm not learning much in the classroom at all. I feel unchallenged, I feel bored, but the worst of it is I know I could be working harder somewhere else, and learning more in the process. I should have had the foresight to know the interest I had in highschool for pro…

Do you not get along with your classmates? Is it possible you are not embracing this experience?

Work your ass off while in college. Sounds like you are not taking any initiative here. Right now I bet you have tons of free time. Use it to better yourself in ALL ways. Exercise. Read. Get out there and meet people.

Re: Why College Is a Poor Choice for a Lot of People

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I want so badly to leave college. It's very difficult to stomach the $20k it's costing my parents. I'm not having fun. I'm not making many connections. I'm not learning much in the classroom at all. I feel unchallenged, I feel bored, but the worst of it is I know I could be working harder somewhere else, and learning more in the process. I should have had the foresight to know the interest I had in highschool for pro…

If you're convinced you can make better use of your time without college, quit! You could see what the market offers for your current skills, then decide. Work your ass off at enjoying yourself too.

Re: Why College Is a Poor Choice for a Lot of People

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post #51

I recently stopped going to college (a few months ago). I've been thinking about the decision for around two years now and it was the best decision I've ever made. I have never been as productive and generally happy as I have after leaving classes. What I agree most with the article is that college is not the correct decision for those who already know what they want to do or have a specific goal in mind. Attending c…

Thanks for sharing this here. I'd love to hear your thoughts on my situation.

I started programming in freshman year (2006) of high school and fell in love with it. I've been coding since, but also started getting excited about startups. A year after graduating from high school, I started one with a couple of friends from college. It's the best decision I've made.. I have learned so much in a few years. I am convinced I wouldn't have learned as much by focusing in school.

I've been in school for about 4 years now getting a CS degree. I started taking less classes per semester last year because I was doing bad in them. I had a lack of interest and also spent a lot more time involved in the startup. That hasn't changed. I have 5 classes left to graduate, but my GPA needs to go up by a lot in order to do so.

There is a lot of pressure from my parents to finish school since I'm almost done, but I'm really struggling to do well in my classes since I'm just not into them. It really feels like I'm wasting my time.. getting stressed about my grades.. and I'm not sure what to do.

The obvious solution is to keep going and finish... but it's a constant battle every week to convince myself that this is the best path and to keep going.

Re: Why College Is a Poor Choice for a Lot of People

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I want so badly to leave college. It's very difficult to stomach the $20k it's costing my parents. I'm not having fun. I'm not making many connections. I'm not learning much in the classroom at all. I feel unchallenged, I feel bored, but the worst of it is I know I could be working harder somewhere else, and learning more in the process. I should have had the foresight to know the interest I had in highschool for pro…

A couple of options occur to me:

1. Don't take random classes. My two main regrets from college are not taking more classes in foreign languages, and not taking more math. You may well know more of either at this point than I did, but it can't hurt you to know more. There are other whole fields as well that you might find interest you. If you've done the math, then why not physics or chemistry? If you've done the languages, then a well-chosen history class might be enlightening.

2. You could take a year off, particularly if you can find a programming job that suits you.

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