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Re: FastMail app for iOS and Android now available

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Please be aware FastMail is subject to Australian law. [1] The government is scrambling to pass laws for mass surveillance [2] and controversial data retention laws. [3] [1] https://www.fastmail.com/help/legal/privacy.html [2] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/09/australian-government-... [2] http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/oct/16/privac...

What other email host would you advice that is on better law?

Re: FastMail app for iOS and Android now available

#62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's great to hear. Regarding the Android app having just checked it out, my first request, if you're taking them, is multiple account support. I can only log into one fastmail.com account at a time with what is here now. The reason I have two accounts is because I have two domains that get emails. Otherwise seems like a solid app. I'll probably start using this as my calendar app. :) http://jmap.io/ seems pretty a…

> That's great to hear. Regarding the Android app having just checked it out, my first request, if you're taking them, is multiple account support. I can only log into one fastmail.com account at a time with what is here now. The reason I have two accounts is because I have two domains that get emails. Yep, its high on the todo list for a future update. > http://jmap.io/ seems pretty awesome, I guess I can use that t…

JMAP does indeed look very interesting. In my (very, very slow) path towards writing my own email client, I've also come to expect that a new, simpler protocol is probably a better bet than imap. Partly this belief is bolstered by the fact that the creator of sup went on to make heliotrope: https://github.com/sup-heliotrope/heliotrope [ed: I suppose the canonical repo is https://github.com/wmorgan/heliotrope -- but afaik they are the same (and both appear dead)]

Is the code on: http://jmap.io/server.html actual code? If so what kind? Lua? It'd be great if you could publish some test cases, even if you don't have implementations to go (open source) with it at this time.

I'm sure fastmail can bring a lot of real-world testing and experience to the table when/if designing a new protocol for email -- and I'd be very surprised if we actually need more than one... (at least considering we already have smtp, lmtp, pop3, imap and maildirsync over ssh, along with rsync/unison -- that cover a lot of use-cases already).

Re: FastMail app for iOS and Android now available

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair enough, we love IMAP too, and there's no way its going anywhere. We've always cared about standards compliance and client choice, so use what you like and be happy! :)

How does that new Australian law allowing manipulation of data effect fastmail?

Check this thread http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?t=69561 at emaildiscussions.com.

There's an answer given by Fastmail's support. Sadly, I agree with an user there when he/she says that the folks there don't seem to be much interested in that kind of discussion..

Re: FastMail app for iOS and Android now available

#64

Have you got/had any thoughts about making the Android app available through avenues other than the Play store? (eg Aptoide or similar, or even just a link to the apk) I have Fastmail and support for Android apps; but no Play store access... (And if it was a concious decision not to, any particular reason? :-) )

I concur with this request. There are many new devices that don't ship with Play services and to facilitate them your apk will eventually be ripped and hosted on sites with little guarantee of authenticity.

So instead it would be great to have a direct, trustworthy download link with checksums / signature.

Re: FastMail app for iOS and Android now available

#66
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's great to hear. Regarding the Android app having just checked it out, my first request, if you're taking them, is multiple account support. I can only log into one fastmail.com account at a time with what is here now. The reason I have two accounts is because I have two domains that get emails. Yep, its high on the todo list for a future update. > http://jmap.io/ seems pretty awesome, I guess I can use that t…

JMAP does indeed look very interesting. In my (very, very slow) path towards writing my own email client, I've also come to expect that a new, simpler protocol is probably a better bet than imap. Partly this belief is bolstered by the fact that the creator of sup went on to make heliotrope: https://github.com/sup-heliotrope/heliotrope [ed: I suppose the canonical repo is https://github.com/wmorgan/heliotrope -- but a…

> Is the code on: http://jmap.io/server.html actual code?

No, just pseudo-code.

Right now we don't have a lot of real JMAP code. FastMail's implementation technically isn't JMAP. To write JMAP we took our current protocol and filed off a lot of the pointy edges. We're working to update our own implementation, and we're also working on open-source reference servers and clients.

There's a mailing list just starting here:

  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/jmap-discuss
You might like to sign up and lurk there. I'll be posting to it soon (maybe tonight) to get the ball rolling on a few things.

Re: FastMail app for iOS and Android now available

#67
On Android I keep getting "Sorry, legacy Guest/Member accounts are not supported. Please upgrade your account to use the FastMail app". I only signed up a few months ago, and can't find any options for an upgrade. Help?

(p.s. Excited to try it out!)

Edit: I am using a custom domain (a few different business accounts) if that is relevant.

Re: FastMail app for iOS and Android now available

#68
Sure, Australian government will soon spy on you if you use Fastmail. But every other mail provider is spied on by US government at least. And Australia is an enlightened first world country so unless you're doing something illegal, you might as well consider it better than being spied on by US government.

Re: FastMail app for iOS and Android now available

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post #67

On Android I keep getting "Sorry, legacy Guest/Member accounts are not supported. Please upgrade your account to use the FastMail app". I only signed up a few months ago, and can't find any options for an upgrade. Help? (p.s. Excited to try it out!) Edit: I am using a custom domain (a few different business accounts) if that is relevant.

Please contact support. That's definitely not right.

Re: FastMail app for iOS and Android now available

#70

I have been using fastmail for a month now after switching from gmail. I quite like it, but the two drawbacks are that it's just a little bit more likely to let spam in than gmail, even with aggressive spam options enabled, and with fastmail I'm missing out on the growing gmail ecosystem (Streak, Dropbox mailbox app, others). It's fine though, I really am happy to be paying for an email service instead of depending o…

with fastmail I'm missing out on the growing gmail ecosystem (Streak, Dropbox mailbox app, others).

While I have no doubt a better ecosystem around would be appreciated by some, the ecosystem thing as a whole is a double-edged sword.

I personally fled the Google-sphere because I felt I was gradually getting locked into something non-standard, non-portable.

These days I'm very hesitant to using non-integrations which aren't strictly needed. For instance: I prefer to create a proper user-account over "just" signing in with Facebook or Google.

I properly own my own domain and email-address. My Google or Facebook-account not so much.

Edit: To be clear, the value-add for me is that fastmail isn't some non-replaceable thing tied to an ecosystem, but a standards-based service provider which I can mix and mash with other best of breed-services as I see fit.

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