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A terrible tragedy: Dan Haubert of Ticketstumbler (fallentimes) has passed away

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Re: A terrible tragedy: Dan Haubert of Ticketstumbler (fallentimes) has passed away

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Post by cperciva »

tdavis wrote: post #51
rogerthat wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I apologize in advance if this question is intrusive but is there any possibility it could have been an accident? Sometimes the line can be blurry. Accidental suicides do happen. Especially since there was no note.

Unfortunately, the way I found him pretty much rules that out. I'm foregoing description to be kind to family and friends, but it wasn't something you accidently do. A couple minor things he did directly beforehand which would seem completely innocuous to everybody but me also gives me confidence in the conclusion.

the way I found him

I didn't realize until seeing this that you were the person who found him. Please don't be afraid to seek counselling if you have flashbacks / nightmares / difficulty sleeping / etc -- post-traumatic stress disorder is very commonly experienced by those who find suicide victims.

Re: A terrible tragedy: Dan Haubert of Ticketstumbler (fallentimes) has passed away

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Post by wheels »

jacquesm wrote: post #41
vaksel wrote: post #4

what is it with all these young kids dying? wasn't there a post like only a few days ago about a guy losing his cofounder to a car accident. how did he die, if you don't mind me asking?

In the greater context of start-ups and the pressures associated with that, it's not just 'young kids dying', it is 'young kids working on start-ups dying'. I realize that some people are of a mindset where 'failure is not an option', and this in and of itself brings some risks with it. No clue what the factors are in this particular case beyond what's in this thread but I've seen people literally break because of th…

I'm not sure it's fair to point to a trend from a sample set of one. The other guy was killed in a car crash; it'd be pretty hard to peg that to being part of a startup.

Re: A terrible tragedy: Dan Haubert of Ticketstumbler (fallentimes) has passed away

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Post by CamperBob »

I, too, had a good friend in Austin back in the 90s who committed suicide unexpectedly. The cause of death was phrased delicately as an "accidental hanging". Let's just say that depression is not the only cause of suicide. Some people are the sort who just have to try everything once.

Not suggesting that's what happened to Dan, but if so it would mean that nobody should feel remorse or guilt about failing to notice he needed help.

Re: A terrible tragedy: Dan Haubert of Ticketstumbler (fallentimes) has passed away

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Post by jlees »

brandnewlow wrote: post #30
bprater wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depression is an incredibly insidious disease folks, especially because sufferers normally keep it hidden from others. Some days you can feel completely fine, have amazing connections with people, love your work, be a completely present and loving parent and spouse. And on really bad days, it feels like the sky has completely collapsed on you and that the only logical thing to do is make the world a better place by l…

You keep it hidden because for every 1 person who takes your advice and helps you out there are 5 who will write you off as a serious person for the rest of your life. Edit: I'm not saying this is right/wrong, but there are real consequences to outing oneself as a depressive.

Indeed, there are consequences, but the outing isn't binary. You don't have to tell everyone, and the sensitive nature of the whole thing means that if you confide in someone or someones close to you, it's not likely to be the gossip of the town tomorrow.

Depending on the circles and acquaintances you have, often the reaction to it is a lot less... impactful than you'd expect. And, unfortunately, as I've alluded to elsewhere, in some circles it's considered almost cool. (Especially if you have a Livejournal.)

Re: A terrible tragedy: Dan Haubert of Ticketstumbler (fallentimes) has passed away

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Post by vaksel »

pg wrote: post #36
tdavis wrote: post #12

Tom here. I am exhausted so pardon the informality and lack of feeling. Questions, etc. please contact me. Paul has a note that he's going to be posting on the YC blog at some point; try to keep discussion to one post, for my sanity. I will be keeping an eye on stuff and answering questions where possible. tom@ts also gtalk

http://ycombinator.com/dan.html

i think the photo should just have dan, or at least point a sign to dan, those people who don't know what he looks like, can get confused

Re: A terrible tragedy: Dan Haubert of Ticketstumbler (fallentimes) has passed away

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Post by nestlequ1k »

tdavis wrote: post #11
vaksel wrote: post #4

what is it with all these young kids dying? wasn't there a post like only a few days ago about a guy losing his cofounder to a car accident. how did he die, if you don't mind me asking?

Suicide.

That's really sad news. If you can, posting any warning signs you can recognize after the fact might help other people identify when one of their co-founders might be at risk.

Re: A terrible tragedy: Dan Haubert of Ticketstumbler (fallentimes) has passed away

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Post by joez »

I wish I have had to chance to meet him. I do recognize his username for insightful comments. Tom, I hope to know that people are adding on comments to show that they care. I wanted to add just another one even if it had no quip or insight. My condolences.
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