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Gnome Foundation and Groupon product names – Updated

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Re: Gnome Foundation and Groupon product names – Updated

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post #29

Gnome made more than 60k from this, while Groupon declined their plans. Flawless victory?

IANAL but I think it will be nightmare for their accountants.

There should be some safeguards in the law that you cannot easily re purpose solicited donations for a cause.

Re: Gnome Foundation and Groupon product names – Updated

#33
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you can characterize it as being evil. There's also no clear ulterior motive for pushing through with the name, and "capitalizing on the name recognition of the Gnome project" is not a valid hypothesis since that name doesn't mean anything for 99% of Groupon's customers. It looks more like they were just being a typical stubborn corporation. Some product manager got really attached to the name and they…

You don't say anything that's not exactly right, but you're still missing the point. They had the opportunity to own up to their mistake and seek the goodwill of the community. They missed that chance. Perhaps not "evil", but certainly worth some continued indignation.

Evil was the point, I don't think I missed that. It seems to me your point is I failed to recognize how much indignation this caused, but that wasn't really within the scope of the comment I was replying to. And I'm not trying to debate whether continued indignation is warranted or not.

My suspicion is it'll blow over pretty quickly, though, if for no other reason than there are more pressing issues keeping most open source developers awake as opposed to an already resolved trademark dispute which never even went to court. This was a good day, wasn't it?

Re: Gnome Foundation and Groupon product names – Updated

#34

Hmmm.... This doesn't seem to line up with what Gnome said [0]: > It was almost inconceivable to us that Groupon, with over $2.5 billion in annual revenue, a full legal team and a huge engineering staff would not have heard of the GNOME project, found our trademark registration using a casual search, or even found our website, but we nevertheless got in touch with them and asked them to pick another name. Not only di…

Either way Groupon made the right decision here imo

They seemed to come to this decision only when it was realized that they had no way of winning the fight. Hardly worth congratulating for.

Re: Gnome Foundation and Groupon product names – Updated

#35
post #26

As a show of good faith, Groupon should write the Gnome Foundation a check for the remaining $12k (currently at $68k)

It would be a tax write off for them either way, so a huge PR win, and a small tax win.

Maybe this is actually a really sneaky fundraiser for GNOME, sponsored by Groupon.

Re: Gnome Foundation and Groupon product names – Updated

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Either way Groupon made the right decision here imo

They seemed to come to this decision only when it was realized that they had no way of winning the fight. Hardly worth congratulating for.

I wasn't congratulating. Just happy that this worked out in GNOMEs favor for obvious reasons.

Re: Gnome Foundation and Groupon product names – Updated

#37
post #29

Gnome made more than 60k from this, while Groupon declined their plans. Flawless victory?

IANAL but I think it will be nightmare for their accountants. There should be some safeguards in the law that you cannot easily re purpose solicited donations for a cause.

IAANAL but I'm pretty sure the way it works in the US is that donations go to the organization and can be used for any purpose, even if they were originally solicited for a specific purpose.

Re: Gnome Foundation and Groupon product names – Updated

#38
post #29

Gnome made more than 60k from this, while Groupon declined their plans. Flawless victory?

IANAL but I think it will be nightmare for their accountants. There should be some safeguards in the law that you cannot easily re purpose solicited donations for a cause.

It's sad that this was the first time I donated to GNOME given how much I've used their software in the past. I certainly don't regret the donation regardless of how it is used.

Re: Gnome Foundation and Groupon product names – Updated

#39
post #29

Gnome made more than 60k from this, while Groupon declined their plans. Flawless victory?

IANAL but I think it will be nightmare for their accountants. There should be some safeguards in the law that you cannot easily re purpose solicited donations for a cause.

The GNOME folks considered that in their solicitation. From " rel="nofollow">http://gnome.org/groupon/>:

    If we are able to defend the mark without spending
    this amount, we will use the remaining funds to
    bolster and improve GNOME. 
I donated, and I'm pleased that they exhibited such forethought and will still be able to make good use of the funds.
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