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Re: GitHub Enterprise 2.0

#11

Post by mikemcquaid » Tue, Nov 11, 2014, 3:40 PM UTC

npongratz wrote: post #7

> GitHub Enterprise now utilizes Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... I'm curious, why is this new release based on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS rather than 14.04 LTS? I'm mainly interested in the thought process behind this choice, I don't have an opinion about it.

We're running 12.04 on github.com so made sense to sync them up.

Re: GitHub Enterprise 2.0

#12

Post by skywhopper » Tue, Nov 11, 2014, 3:41 PM UTC

npongratz wrote: post #7

> GitHub Enterprise now utilizes Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... I'm curious, why is this new release based on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS rather than 14.04 LTS? I'm mainly interested in the thought process behind this choice, I don't have an opinion about it.

14.04 is too new. They probably started working on this long before 14.04 was finalized, and retooling would be expensive and slow them down. And even then, 14.04 is still rough around the edges--not all of the kinks have been discovered or fixed yet. 12.04 still has over three years of life left in it, which is much longer than the probable lifetime of GHE 2.0, and a future release of GHE can upgrade to 14.04 if and when that's necessary/beneficial.

Re: GitHub Enterprise 2.0

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Post by scrollaway » Tue, Nov 11, 2014, 3:41 PM UTC

mikemcquaid wrote: post #11

npongratz wrote: post #7

> GitHub Enterprise now utilizes Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... I'm curious, why is this new release based on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS rather than 14.04 LTS? I'm mainly interested in the thought process behind this choice, I don't have an opinion about it.

We're running 12.04 on github.com so made sense to sync them up.

Why Ubuntu over Debian, out of curiosity? I've seen Spotify switch from Debian to Ubuntu and regretting it already.

Re: GitHub Enterprise 2.0

#14

Post by warcode » Tue, Nov 11, 2014, 3:43 PM UTC

"Introducing a faster, more flexible GitHub Enterprise... unless you wanted more flexible pricing"

Re: GitHub Enterprise 2.0

#15

Post by claudiug » Tue, Nov 11, 2014, 3:49 PM UTC

iends wrote: post #9

guiomie wrote: post #4

How can I see the pricing ?

I spent a huge amount of time trying to find pricing. Bad UI/UX.

intentional ui

Re: GitHub Enterprise 2.0

#16

Post by AhtiK » Tue, Nov 11, 2014, 3:51 PM UTC

"GitHub Enterprise /.../ support for rendering PSD files will have your design teams jumping for joy."

I keep wondering how they do the PSD file rendering, sounds very intruiging. Is there a separate "thumbnail" automatically included in every PSD file or is GitHub doing a real PSD file rendering? In that case I wonder about font availability etc..

Re: GitHub Enterprise 2.0

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Post by dan_blanchard » Tue, Nov 11, 2014, 3:57 PM UTC

modoc wrote: post #6

Igglyboo wrote: post #2

Does anyone know how this compares to Stash? Been using bitbucket for a while but wanted to switch to a self hosted version soon.

It is significantly more expensive, especially for teams in the ~100+ range. We've been using Stash (and Jira, Confluence, etc..) pretty happily. GitHub is great, but the $$$ is just too much, and the Atlasssian ecosystem integrates nicely.

Yeah, and the worst part is that GitHub doesn't even offer the same suite of services you get with the Atlassian ecosystem. It'd be one thing if it were a bit more expensive, but also included CI and a more full-fledged CMS like Confluence.

That said, ff they dropped the price, my team would switch in a heartbeat, because we use GitHub and Travis-CI for all our open source stuff.

Re: GitHub Enterprise 2.0

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Post by technoweenie » Tue, Nov 11, 2014, 3:58 PM UTC

AhtiK wrote: post #16

"GitHub Enterprise /.../ support for rendering PSD files will have your design teams jumping for joy." I keep wondering how they do the PSD file rendering, sounds very intruiging. Is there a separate "thumbnail" automatically included in every PSD file or is GitHub doing a real PSD file rendering? In that case I wonder about font availability etc..

Imagemagick can convert a PSD into a PNG.

Re: GitHub Enterprise 2.0

#19

Post by nilsimsa » Tue, Nov 11, 2014, 3:59 PM UTC

skywhopper wrote: post #12

npongratz wrote: post #7

> GitHub Enterprise now utilizes Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... I'm curious, why is this new release based on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS rather than 14.04 LTS? I'm mainly interested in the thought process behind this choice, I don't have an opinion about it.

14.04 is too new. They probably started working on this long before 14.04 was finalized, and retooling would be expensive and slow them down. And even then, 14.04 is still rough around the edges--not all of the kinks have been discovered or fixed yet. 12.04 still has over three years of life left in it, which is much longer than the probable lifetime of GHE 2.0, and a future release of GHE can upgrade to 14.04 if and…

So a stable release is too unstable for them? And now the first thing users will have to do is after install, apply all the bug fix packages to bring it to 14.04. But that will bring no unstability concerns? Or will they just not patch it and expose themselves to the bugs in the name of stability?

Re: GitHub Enterprise 2.0

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Post by atonse » Tue, Nov 11, 2014, 4:03 PM UTC

claudiug wrote: post #15

iends wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I spent a huge amount of time trying to find pricing. Bad UI/UX.

intentional ui

It's very likely buried at the bottom of features since it's the thing that's likely to make some shy away even before they see all the good features.

Edit: In all honesty though, even though it does seem expensive, if you have 20 seats (20 developers), your payroll is already on the order of $1MM+, so $5k a year is almost a margin of error at that point, considering those devs use it all day every day.