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Help the Gnome Foundation Defend the Gnome Trademark Against Groupon

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Re: Help the Gnome Foundation Defend the Gnome Trademark Against Groupon

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When the GNOME foundation chose it, back in 1997 , it was an acronym for "GNU Network Object Model Environment". (And it's pronounced with a non-silent 'G', just like GNU.)

TIL I have been pronouncing it wrong all this time. Which may be the result of my background in genetics though :)

Re: Help the Gnome Foundation Defend the Gnome Trademark Against Groupon

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post #95

I'm one of the folks working on the GNOME defense campaign. Happy to answer any questions people might have.

Hi Josh. Can you give us Groupon's perspective on this issue?

I'm working with the GNOME foundation, not with Groupon. Our perspective on Groupon:

> It was almost inconceivable to us that Groupon, with over $2.5 billion in annual revenue, a full legal team and a huge engineering staff would not have heard of the GNOME project, found our trademark registration using a casual search, or even found our website, but we nevertheless got in touch with them and asked them to pick another name. Not only did Groupon refuse, but it has now filed even more trademark applications

Re: Help the Gnome Foundation Defend the Gnome Trademark Against Groupon

#104
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Can you guys just rename it to genome to skirt this whole issue please? :)

We have no intention of just giving up, no.

I think the people replying to this thread think you are working for groupon. That is the only way this makes any sense.

Re: Help the Gnome Foundation Defend the Gnome Trademark Against Groupon

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Could you kindly explain me then what's the point of registering a trademark? Is it something you can then wave with in front of jury? Do you really need $80k for that? Do you need $80k to print out your accepted trademark application, and prove that you're in the business for 17 years? Sorry this is just complete non-sense and failure of the system.

Not only that, but those $80k could have paid for quite a few months of development, but instead those will be money going down the drain because of a broken justice system. And they have the nerve to say that IP laws are fueling innovation.

Well, without these IP laws GNOME wouldn't have any recourse, would they?

Re: Help the Gnome Foundation Defend the Gnome Trademark Against Groupon

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post #104

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We have no intention of just giving up, no.

I think the people replying to this thread think you are working for groupon. That is the only way this makes any sense.

Gah! No, definitely not; I'm helping with the GNOME defense campaign.

Re: Help the Gnome Foundation Defend the Gnome Trademark Against Groupon

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You should definitely save that pic and a timestamp or something to that effect. Bonus points if you do it in front of a lawyer in the right jurisdiction.

It's a bit more extreme than that; read his summary; https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/93i0gkawa4q15lh/2014-11-... Edit: cannot be the one you meant? He is part of the GNOME foundation...

Exactly. :/

Re: Help the Gnome Foundation Defend the Gnome Trademark Against Groupon

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post #35

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IIRC, the rule is that if you don't step up yourself to defend your trademark whenever someone else tries to use it, your trademark becomes void.

Could you kindly explain me then what's the point of registering a trademark? Is it something you can then wave with in front of jury? Do you really need $80k for that? Do you need $80k to print out your accepted trademark application, and prove that you're in the business for 17 years? Sorry this is just complete non-sense and failure of the system.

Surely though, if Gnome win the case then Groupon would become liable to pay the costs?
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