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Help the Gnome Foundation Defend the Gnome Trademark Against Groupon

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Re: Help the Gnome Foundation Defend the Gnome Trademark Against Groupon

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Ehm.. so.. GNOME wants our help now. But how did they behave when GNOME 3 was announced to not work without systemd? Or hey, anyone remember that discussion on a GNOME developers' mailing list, where they planned to take out theming support, because "it is going against the ubiquitous experience we envision GNOME 3 to be"?

This smells fishy to me. (I said it more harshly, but realised that I went too far, sorry about that.)

Feel free to shoot holes in my theory.

Re: Help the Gnome Foundation Defend the Gnome Trademark Against Groupon

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post #2

Ehm.. so.. GNOME wants our help now. But how did they behave when GNOME 3 was announced to not work without systemd? Or hey, anyone remember that discussion on a GNOME developers' mailing list, where they planned to take out theming support, because "it is going against the ubiquitous experience we envision GNOME 3 to be"? This smells fishy to me. (I said it more harshly, but realised that I went too far, sorry about…

Following the links to Groupon's Gnome product pages makes it pretty simple to see that the basic claim is quite clearly real.

No idea where you go from "this open source project doesn't develop in the direction I expect/want" to "this open source project deserves to lose their brand".

Re: Help the Gnome Foundation Defend the Gnome Trademark Against Groupon

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post #2

Ehm.. so.. GNOME wants our help now. But how did they behave when GNOME 3 was announced to not work without systemd? Or hey, anyone remember that discussion on a GNOME developers' mailing list, where they planned to take out theming support, because "it is going against the ubiquitous experience we envision GNOME 3 to be"? This smells fishy to me. (I said it more harshly, but realised that I went too far, sorry about…

You have no theory

Re: Help the Gnome Foundation Defend the Gnome Trademark Against Groupon

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post #2

Ehm.. so.. GNOME wants our help now. But how did they behave when GNOME 3 was announced to not work without systemd? Or hey, anyone remember that discussion on a GNOME developers' mailing list, where they planned to take out theming support, because "it is going against the ubiquitous experience we envision GNOME 3 to be"? This smells fishy to me. (I said it more harshly, but realised that I went too far, sorry about…

That's mighty nice of Groupon to drop money on 28 trademark applications just so the GNOME Foundation (who incidentally do more than make the GNOME desktop environment) can boost their end of year donations. They even managed to get Debian and Fedora in on it too!

But really, it must be pretty disheartening to see people accuse your organisation of running a scam, just because they don't like design decisions a number of developers on a handful of your products made. Especially when the software in question has nothing to do with the discussion.

Re: Help the Gnome Foundation Defend the Gnome Trademark Against Groupon

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post #2

Ehm.. so.. GNOME wants our help now. But how did they behave when GNOME 3 was announced to not work without systemd? Or hey, anyone remember that discussion on a GNOME developers' mailing list, where they planned to take out theming support, because "it is going against the ubiquitous experience we envision GNOME 3 to be"? This smells fishy to me. (I said it more harshly, but realised that I went too far, sorry about…

Groupon has indeed filed several trademark applications for the Gnome name, e.g., http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4801:uz6... What is the purported scam?

Re: Help the Gnome Foundation Defend the Gnome Trademark Against Groupon

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post #2

Ehm.. so.. GNOME wants our help now. But how did they behave when GNOME 3 was announced to not work without systemd? Or hey, anyone remember that discussion on a GNOME developers' mailing list, where they planned to take out theming support, because "it is going against the ubiquitous experience we envision GNOME 3 to be"? This smells fishy to me. (I said it more harshly, but realised that I went too far, sorry about…

Regardless of what you think of GNOME, it's still a pretty slimy thing for Groupon to do. That kind of behaviour may be worth opposing on principle.

"First they came for Gnome, and I did not speak out..."

Re: Help the Gnome Foundation Defend the Gnome Trademark Against Groupon

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I really don't know what happened over there at Groupon: http://gnome.groupon.com/#intro/index Did they truly not know? Did they just think the Gnome project wouldn't care? That they'll win the lawsuit?

Trademarks aren’t universal; they are divided into classifications e.g. market segments. Just because the name is the same, doesn't mean the PTO will think of them as being in the same space.
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