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Re: An Update on Hacker News

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Hi there. Why not tell me why I was hellbanned then? Here's my comment history. Such bullying, so horrible, wow: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=ahoyhere The only conclusion is that HN hellbans dissent. I'm about as far from a troll as you can get. It's your platform; do what you want. But don't lie about it.

Wow, I didn't even realize ahoyhere was hellbanned, I thought you just drifted away from the site.

You'd be surprised just how often this happens.

Re: An Update on Hacker News

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Apparently, this is the comment that got my old account banned: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4342935 . I'm not sure though, it's just the last one on the profile before they go dead. I did like my old account.

Please email hn@ycombinator.com.

I thought mistakes never happen over there!

Hellbanning people, and then asking them to email you later, is still a crappy way to act.

It's not a hard problem. Just raise the threshold for hellbanning. Use it sparingly.

Re: An Update on Hacker News

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Would you mind clarifying? The blog post (quoted by parent) seems to explicity say that flagging privs can be revoked, which directly contradicts what you are saying in the comments. Or was the quote from the blog post only meant to refer to flagging of articles?

My apologies—I wrote that in haste and I see now that it was unclear. What I meant was that you can't lose comment flagging privileges while story flagging privileges remain intact; the software just doesn't do that. Either all the flag links would disappear, or none would. So there must be another explanation for what sciurus described (as I understood it). Does that make sense?

Thanks, dang. Your response to sciurus makes more sense now. Though, his description was lacking enough in detail that I suppose he could have also lost story flagging descriptions.

But I am still confused about the apparent contradiction with what you've stated versus what was stated in the blog post, about losing flagging privs. When flagging privs are lost, are _all_ flagging privs lost? Or is minimaxr correct[0], that it works the other way, where you can lose story flagging privs without losing comment flagging privs?

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8586144

Re: An Update on Hacker News

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post #232

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Apparently, this is the comment that got my old account banned: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4342935 . I'm not sure though, it's just the last one on the profile before they go dead. I did like my old account.

I was completely confused by why you were hellbanned. Then I stopped looking at comments and looked at your submissions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4335811 I'm guessing that got caught in the spam filter for use of the words "jewelry" and some of the other keywords in the Amazon link. This is one of the unfortunate side effects of running a startup that happens to be in a field that generates a lot of (affi…

Thanks - that's probably it!

Re: An Update on Hacker News

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We've got an idea about this that we want to try. It's one of the future experiments Sam alluded to at the end of his post. (I'll add some details in a few minutes. Edit—well, quite a few minutes.) The problem is that banning an account is an all-or-nothing system where inappropriate commenting is not necessarily an all-or-nothing phenomenon. The solution we want to try, which was suggested by several users, is to gi…

Very much looking forward to that, it will have two good effects, it will take the edge of hellbanning and it will reduce the load on the moderators. Three good effects, and give those that have been hellbanned (if they are aware of it) a reason to try to be extra good in the future. Four good effects, and it will make hellbanning more effective (because occasionally there will be answers to a comment). Five good...…

> it will make hellbanning more effective

Arguably, if a banned account is making reasonable comments worth responding to, that account shouldn't remain banned.

Maybe after a certain number of comments a ban should be lifted entirely. Unless that's how it's meant to work anyway?

Re: An Update on Hacker News

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Rather than lower the threshold, which is just lowering the bar, how about adding a time parameter to the points? (Older points are worth more, but not visibly so)

Someone that has been using the site for a few years but only commented in a positive way is surely more valid a moderator than a new account that has submitted 10 articles in the last month. The time parameter adds continuity to the quality of flagging.

Re: An Update on Hacker News

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You can unflag. Go to the link for the comment, click "flag", and when the page reloads you can unflag.

he's referring to flagging stories, not comments. the flag link is right next to the comments link. it's very easy to accidentally flag something from the home page of hacker news, when you actually intended to read the comments.

I agree that navigating HN on a phone is terrible.

You can also unflag stories.

Re: An Update on Hacker News

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It's wildly inappropriate to lob a blanket accusation of fraud against every single person who has ever complained about your moderation. People have wildly divergent views as to what's appropriate, what's a little rude, and what's over the line. This means that even if you really truly believe that there was NEVER a mistake made during moderation, that some people will truly believe what they said. Good moderation r…

It's probably a lesson to me that the one time I didn't hedge by saying "almost" or something like that, someone objects to my "blanket accusation". Actually, I originally wrote "almost never" (or something similar). But then I realized I couldn't actually remember a case where someone provided a specific link to back up his or her grand claim of why they were banned. So in a fit of impetuousness I lopped off the "al…

Keep in mind that people might not want to link the example to associate their current account with a banned account to avoid getting banned again.
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