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President Obama Calls for a Free and Open Internet

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Re: President Obama Calls for a Free and Open Internet

#422

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Agree. ISP owner here. Not all web sites or IP addresses contain 100% illegal material. Virtual hosting (hosting more than one web site from same IP address) poses problems as does content among sub-domains. I don't have the resources to monitor and track such things and if I were forced into it, I would either go out of business or try to become a search engine.

I've actually wondered how do you go about providing access to internet? I write a lot of code and spent a good amount of time on the internet and it's always made me wonder how exactly one goes about providing internet to customers. Really curious for any resources to read about this if you have any resources to read or just your personal experience!

I don't think internet is what he provides, as an ISP (Internet services provider). He mentioned virtual hosting, so he's probably offering webhosting services.

Re: President Obama Calls for a Free and Open Internet

#423
On 'network neutrality', I'm lost: Someone please clear this up for me, say, with this 'scenario':

I pay my ISP for 15 Mbps download bandwidth, and some Web site with video clips pays their ISP for 10 Gbps upload bandwidth. So, I connect to that Web site and download or 'stream' a video clip.

Then the Web site better get their 1 Gbps upload bandwidth, if they want to send that much, and if they send me 15 Mbps of video then I better get the full 15 Mbps I paid for.

So, what's the role of 'fast lane', 'slow lane', the Web site paying my ISP for 'more', 'slow downs', etc.

Or as far as I can see, if I'm getting my 15 Mbps (from any Web site sending me that much) and the Web site is getting their 1 Gbps, everything should be okay. Otherwise, either my ISP or the Web site's ISP is not delivering what they were paid for, and I have a tough time believing that that would be common.

I'm failing to see the opportunity for funny business.

Or, yes, if use the Internet as a video phone, then there could be issues of dropped packets, out of order packets, latency, jitter, etc. -- is that what the talk is about?

Re: President Obama Calls for a Free and Open Internet

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I hope no one is getting excited about this. President Obama is a lame duck. His party just got tossed out of the Senate, relegating his political capital to basically 0. In the wake of this, he's decided to take maybe the most important economic issue of the next 20 years and politicize it. Neither the red team nor the blue team could say they owned this issue, but one of the most divisive voices in politics just st…

You are saying that Obama is wrong because he is doing the right thing at a time when he will be defeats by forces that are willing to harm their constituents out of pure spite, and instead we should wait for those spiteful villains to decide to the right thing when it will serve their own selfish goals? That's sick.

Re: President Obama Calls for a Free and Open Internet

#425

On 'network neutrality', I'm lost: Someone please clear this up for me, say, with this 'scenario': I pay my ISP for 15 Mbps download bandwidth, and some Web site with video clips pays their ISP for 10 Gbps upload bandwidth. So, I connect to that Web site and download or 'stream' a video clip. Then the Web site better get their 1 Gbps upload bandwidth, if they want to send that much, and if they send me 15 Mbps of vid…

>either my ISP or the Web site's ISP is not delivering what they were paid for, and I have a tough time believing that that would be common.

Believe it. It's happening today.

Internet plans are always advertised as "up to" some speed, which is a logically meaningless statement. 0 is "up to" 15.

Re: President Obama Calls for a Free and Open Internet

#426

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Agreed. Given the knee-jerk reaction of "Anything that Obama supports is bad", Ted Cruz is now tarring this as "Net Neutrality is the Obamacare of the Internet". I like how "Obamacare" has become the new Communism. A lot of people know hardly anything about it or what it's policies actually are, but it's baaaaad. I like the Digg headline about this: Ted Cruz is the Uber for stupid metaphors.

> Ted Cruz is now tarring this as "Net Neutrality is the Obamacare of the Internet". That is disastrous. If the Republicans unite against Net Neutrality just because Obama supports it, we could easily get a Republican president in the next election, and then the Internet in the U.S. will be doomed for a very long time.

That makes little sense - what is the connection between Net Neutrality and Republicans winning in 2016? As issues go, this is a pretty minor one - economics, healthcare, immigration and foreign policy are way ahead. About 99% of the population don't even know what net neutrality is about, and of those who know what the words mean majority probably don't know enough about how ISPs and network interconnections work to make informed opinion about it (I have read a lot about it and I am still not sure if it's a good idea or not). Internet is not doomed either way, sky is not falling, please do not drink the Kool-Aid. As for Republicans, they are traditionally opposed to many measures expanding government regulatory power, so claiming they oppose it just because Obama is for it is plain wrong.

Re: President Obama Calls for a Free and Open Internet

#427

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Ted Cruz is an extreme outlier. Everyone else in the Republican party hates him. Please don't take his dumb remarks as representative of anyone else. Here is a quote [1] referring to how Mitch McConnell (Republican Senate Minority Leader, soon to be Majority Leader) handles nut-jobs like Ted Cruz: "Mitch has very carefully, very methodically, very much under the radar, isolated Ted Cruz. He's kind of sealed him off l…

"Please don't take his dumb remarks as representative of anyone else." The GOP is masterfully adept at deciding on a set of talking points, getting them into the hands of key people in politics and the media, and then beating voters over the head repeatedly with it until the voters start repeating it back. The Republicans just won the Senate back on the idea that Obamacare is the root of all evil. Watch them leverage…

There were much more issues than Obamacare for this election. Most of them with one underlying topic - gross incompetence of the federal government which managed to mess up multiple times both locally and abroad. Of course, since Democrats are holding the presidency and half of the Congress, they are held responsible for this. Obamacare is a part of it - the law was full of bugs and nonsense like 1099 provisions, its implementation was the regular disaster and as always, it was massively oversold, underdelivered and took more money and produced less useful effects and more unexpected conseqences then planned. But this is the way of Big Government and Obamacare is only one instance of it. Of course, Republicans used all the instances against the party holding the presidency - that's what opposition does. That's the only way to have a measure of accountability there.

Re: President Obama Calls for a Free and Open Internet

#429

I hope no one is getting excited about this. President Obama is a lame duck. His party just got tossed out of the Senate, relegating his political capital to basically 0. In the wake of this, he's decided to take maybe the most important economic issue of the next 20 years and politicize it. Neither the red team nor the blue team could say they owned this issue, but one of the most divisive voices in politics just st…

Sure would be fucking nice if they (democrats and republicans) could not have to take opposing sides on fucking everything, but you're right. Since he's for it, they're going to rally against it. Really disappointing.

That's the government working "for the people".
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