101–110 of 207 posts
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Although Sunde did not provide Ars with specific financial details regarding The Pirate Bay's operational expenses, he did argue that the site's high bandwidth, power, and hardware costs eliminate the potential for profit. The Pirate Bay, he says, may ultimately be operating at a loss. Source: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2008/02/pirate-bay-big-re...
Not making money doing something illegal doesn't make it any more legal.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Although Sunde did not provide Ars with specific financial details regarding The Pirate Bay's operational expenses, he did argue that the site's high bandwidth, power, and hardware costs eliminate the potential for profit. The Pirate Bay, he says, may ultimately be operating at a loss. Source: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2008/02/pirate-bay-big-re...
Not making money doing something illegal doesn't make it any more legal.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Running servers costs money. And IIRC they were actually losing money even with the ads.
> Although Sunde did not provide Ars with specific financial details regarding The Pirate Bay's operational expenses, he did argue that the site's high bandwidth, power, and hardware costs eliminate the potential for profit. The Pirate Bay, he says, may ultimately be operating at a loss. Source: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2008/02/pirate-bay-big-re...
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with the fact that it is problematic to say that prisons should accommodate any kind of voluntary diets (vegetarian, vegan, halal, kosher, etc.). I do not say this because prisons should "punish" inmates, but because it would require to draw a line between "common" or "reasonable" voluntary diets, and other diets. (Of course, this does not apply to special diets required for medical reasons.) In fact, I have…
The lines are pretty clear: Vegan; vegetarian; Halal; Kosher; medical; none of the above. These rules cover most religions and most lifestyle diets; these do exclude wishy-washy bullshit. Not providing foods guided by a person's religion is probably a violation of article 5 and is a violation of article 18 of the universal declaration of human rights. You can ask that the prisonor provides evidence of adherance to th…
Or, since it doesn't seem have been suggested previously, why not a Kosher, Halal vegan meal plan for all inmates? If it was nutritionally complete, it should be cheaper than even the presumably cheap meat-based diet most prisoners are currently fed...
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the only goal of forcing someone to eat something they consider immoral is to punish. It certainly won't help rehabilitation efforts (likely hurt them, in fact).
> Because the only goal of forcing someone to eat something they consider immoral is to punish. Prison is punishment first, rehabilitation second (and it's pretty bad at that considering the percentage of recidivists). Of all the consequences of breaking the law, being forced to eat something you don't like certainly sounds pretty mild.
Says who? Punishment (beyond the punishing nature of the denial of one's freedom) need only be a part of prison because some peoples' (defective) morality demands it.
The first priority of a prison is to protect the people at large from the expected behavior of convicted criminals.
>Of all the consequences of breaking the law, being forced to eat something you don't like certainly sounds pretty mild.
What reason do you have to believe that forcing vegan prisoners to eat a non-vegan diet (or starve) will have any rehabilitative effect? Or are you happy to mete out punishments arbitrarily based upon individuals' personalities?
Prisons already accommodate a multitude of diets for various (mandatory) reasons. It really isn't expensive to accommodate one more.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
That need not be a goal, and it certainly wouldn't be the only goal. The primary goal would be cost and logistics. I don't think prisons have chefs custom making meals for each prisoner.
Short term savings for long term costs. How much is recidivism costing the US right now? They have made massive savings per prisoner but their reoffending rates are 60% Vs. 30% for Sweden.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
That need not be a goal, and it certainly wouldn't be the only goal. The primary goal would be cost and logistics. I don't think prisons have chefs custom making meals for each prisoner.
Short term savings for long term costs. How much is recidivism costing the US right now? They have made massive savings per prisoner but their reoffending rates are 60% Vs. 30% for Sweden.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
The issue is the provenance of the ads, there's way more ad publisher interested in nytimes, ebay, etc... it's even worse when you consider that people that surf piratebay probably use an ad blocker or won't be interested to buy any product. I have an hard time though to believe they would be losing money. How could they afford to keep it online at that scale if they had to use their own money.
How does pornhub.com make money?
You never saw any pornographic ads on Pirate Bay? That's mostly the ads that I saw the last time I went there, but I wasn't searching for porn at all. I'm pretty sure though that people that goes to pornhub want porn, so theses ads should generate more profit on pornhub than on Pirate Bay.
We could also talk about brand association, etc... but I hope you already understood how it's easier to make money out of porn comparatively to illegal torrent tracker.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even if a diet choice is voluntary, if the choice is grounded in religious or ethical reasons then it is an infringement of personal freedom to deny that. Yes, prison itself is an infringement of freedom, but some believe that certain freedoms should remain permanent.
Well obviously the prisons disagree, and since they are fundamentally rooted in the denial of freedom then I don't think anyone involved in the prison industrial complex (even in Sweden) is going to care to hear arguments about how they should be nicer to prisoners.
There are plenty of people workig on makig prisons nicer for prisoners. This includes respecting their religion (as guided by the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR).
It's pretty rich that almost this entire thread is arguing about the prison not respecting Sunde's vegan wishes and his personal wealth and ideals. There are more than ninety comments here and all of them hang off nearly-dead comments. The entire point of prison is to suck, otherwise it wouldn't serve its role, which is to deter crime. Louis CK has a bit about this in one of his recent specials: ...but we really need…