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Mark Zuckerberg: The evolution of a remarkable CEO

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The evolution of a remarkable CEO

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Every employee is rated on a scale from 1 to 5, with five being the highest. No one gets a five. If you get a 1 or a 2, you’re quickly shown the door. Related to that are the steady departures of early founders and executives. Two of them, Adam D’Angelo and Dustin Moskovitz, were Zuckerberg’s high-school and college friends, respectively. They weren’t forced out, but they burned out or realized they weren’t right for…

So you're saying that "they weren't right for their jobs" is wrong. What about the "burned out" part? What do you know about why they left? Did they just move on the more interesting things, like so many startup people do? Genuinely curious here, as I don't know, or know much about, any of the people involved.

Both Adam and Dustin moved on to start their own companies, Quora and Asana, respectively.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The evolution of a remarkable CEO

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I saw Mark at the FB kitchen, when I was interviewing there back in 2007. I was being given a tour of the place, and was going to get some water. He was talking to some people, and I guess he noticed I recognized him, and just rolled his eyes. WTF, I didn't even talk to the guy or say anything. What a prick. Maybe he has matured some.

Maybe he didn't want to talk/listen to the group of people he was with, and was rolling his eyes to communicate that to you?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The evolution of a remarkable CEO

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Funnily enough, Enron had the same system where if you scored towards the bottom you were quickly shown the door. http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,129988,00.h... Of course, most big companies have a employing rating system, but Enron was different because 10-15 % people were asked to leave every year.

I'm pretty skeptical of the idea that harshly competitive environments have their value systems straight, but it bears mentioning that at Enron traders and deal makers were on the evaluation boards for the risk assessment group.

Absolutely correct. Much of their demise can be traced back to their refusal to provide their risk control group any teeth.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The evolution of a remarkable CEO

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post #40

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Um, you know ivankirigin works at Facebook , right?

someone whose company was acquired in order to get them into Facebook, will most likely have a different experience and quality of projects, than the average drone. + he's been there what...a month? he is still biased by the honeymoon phase.

Tipjoy wasn't actually acquired -- they hired Ivan, though there may have been a little extra on the table:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/08/22/facebook-hires-tipjoy-c...

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The evolution of a remarkable CEO

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I attended a presentation he made some time ago, and came away really impressed. He has a remarkably clear vision, understands what not to do as much as what to do, and seems to know his own strengths and weaknesses. I agree - he is a remarkable CEO.

I attended a presentation by him I think two years ago at Startup Camp. I was rather unimpressed. He arrived and confessed he really hadn't given it much though, he hadn't prepared at all, and so launched into 45 minutes of rambling. Basically all his advice could be summed with, "Just do what I did." Obviously, the company has come a long way since then, and I doubt someone as smart as him wouldn't have learned a lo…

I would even sum up his advice as, "Do exactly the opposite of what these other smart people like Mitch Kapor have been telling you to do today."

Of course, as you mentioned, he arrived just in time for his talk, so he didn't even know that he was directly contradicting the advice of previous speakers.

He also scoffed at any form of testing when an audience member asked.

I was beyond unimpressed. Hopefully he redeems himself this year.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The evolution of a remarkable CEO

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post #49

This was a great article. Zuckerberg has the reputation for being a first class prima donna douche-nozzle, with his hired execs stepping in to do damage control and actually run the company. But what impressed me in the article was that it showed he wasn't the simple tyrant who accidentally hit a gold mine his reputation makes him out to be, but is thoughtfully (though ruthlessly) trying to adapt and run his company.…

I don't know about all that. But it appears he's trying to use the same logic on his own ideas that he uses on his people.

Except that if his people don't perform they loose their jobs and livelihoods. If he doesn't perform, he'll just stay on. And if he does get booted out somehow, he can just retire to a permanent life in a jacuzzi (my personal dream).

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The evolution of a remarkable CEO

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post #74
post #40

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someone whose company was acquired in order to get them into Facebook, will most likely have a different experience and quality of projects, than the average drone. + he's been there what...a month? he is still biased by the honeymoon phase.

Tipjoy wasn't actually acquired -- they hired Ivan, though there may have been a little extra on the table: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/08/22/facebook-hires-tipjoy-c...

There wasn't anything extra. That story if full of shit.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The evolution of a remarkable CEO

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post #74

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Tipjoy wasn't actually acquired -- they hired Ivan, though there may have been a little extra on the table: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/08/22/facebook-hires-tipjoy-c...

There wasn't anything extra. That story if full of shit.

To be clear, I didn't mean any foul-play. Quite the contrary. I remember reading that it was chill in the HN comments and don't think I'd bothered to read the original article.

Basically I thought you might have gotten a better than average contract there as a devel since you had a background doing cool stuff and was clarifying that Tipjoy wasn't actually acquired.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The evolution of a remarkable CEO

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post #78

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There wasn't anything extra. That story if full of shit.

To be clear, I didn't mean any foul-play. Quite the contrary. I remember reading that it was chill in the HN comments and don't think I'd bothered to read the original article. Basically I thought you might have gotten a better than average contract there as a devel since you had a background doing cool stuff and was clarifying that Tipjoy wasn't actually acquired.

No problem, I just wanted to clarify.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The evolution of a remarkable CEO

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post #48
post #28

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oh please, it's facebook, not Google, their "cool" projects involve translating the site into pirate and latin languages. + with ~1000 employees, chances are you as a programmer are most likely doing mundane crap. The "extremely smart and focused" people don't take well to having to do bullshit projects.

Whereas Google's "cool" projects involve, umm, finding new things to insert ads into. With 20,000 engineers now, Google is as "cool" as HP or IBM.

i think you mean 20,000 employees, not engineers.
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