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The Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

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Re: The Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

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This has become my preferred translation. It's a great modern translation and uses very approachable language. To me it reads much more like a journal than the other available translations. http://amzn.to/1xy6LYZ

I like that translation as well. There are some really powerful thoughts in there. It always puts me in a more centered mindset.

Re: The Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

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I have a copy on my nightstand that I read semi-frequently. It's interesting to keep in mind that he wrote them as a personal journal and never intended for his writings to be read by a broader audience. He frequently chastises himself and one of my favorite reflections comes from the beginning of Book V. The translation from the OP isn't the best but it's all I have on hand:

"In the morning when thou risest unwillingly, let this thought be present- I am rising to the work of a human being. Why then am I dissatisfied if I am going to do the things for which I exist and for which I was brought into the world? Or have I been made for this, to lie in the bed-clothes and keep myself warm?- But this is more pleasant.- Dost thou exist then to take thy pleasure, and not at all for action or exertion? Dost thou not see the little plants, the little birds, the ants, the spiders, the bees working together to put in order their several parts of the universe? And art thou unwilling to do the work of a human being, and dost thou not make haste to do that which is according to thy nature?- But it is necessary to take rest also.- It is necessary: however nature has fixed bounds to this too: she has fixed bounds both to eating and drinking, and yet thou goest beyond these bounds, beyond what is sufficient; yet in thy acts it is not so, but thou stoppest short of what thou canst do. So thou lovest not thyself, for if thou didst, thou wouldst love thy nature and her will."

Re: The Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

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post #5

If you really dig Meditations, I recommend reading a couple translations side by side. They're all subtly different, and I find it helps me get a better grasp on the ideas Marcus was expressing to see how different people translated. Here are some discussions on the different translations: http://www.reddit.com/r/Stoicism/comments/137knd/survey_best... http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/jaqm1/whats_the_best_...

A better (if more time consuming) option is to learn Latin and read it in the original.

I once had the same thought, only to discover (as another commenter speculated) that Marcus wrote the Meditations in the common (Koine) Greek of the day. [1]

[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditations

Re: The Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A better (if more time consuming) option is to learn Latin and read it in the original.

Weren't they written in greek?

They were. But hey, learning Latin would give you the ability to read Lucretius in the original, and his "De Rerum Natura" is quite an interesting contrast to the Stoicism of "Meditations".

Re: The Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

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I have read about half of the book. It's a really good and philosophically inspiring read, though he has some silly convictions, like that his uncle is very modest because he does not care about the beauty of his slaves. The stark contrast of the stoic philosophy and those silly convictions fascinates me.

Re: The Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A better (if more time consuming) option is to learn Latin and read it in the original.

Weren't they written in greek?

Definitely Latin. By the time Aurelius was emperor the Greeks had already been overtaken by the Romans.

Edit: Incidentally, a simple Google would've shown it was written in Greek: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditations

Never trust people on the internet, even yourself.

Re: The Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weren't they written in greek?

Definitely Latin. By the time Aurelius was emperor the Greeks had already been overtaken by the Romans. Edit: Incidentally, a simple Google would've shown it was written in Greek: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditations Never trust people on the internet, even yourself.

The Romans conquered the Greeks politically, but culturally the influence went mainly in the other direction, and in fact the Meditations (per my comment at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8580261) were written in Greek.

Re: The Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

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A variation on this theme by an Anonymous "lion" of finance has recently been digitized and put in the public domain. Here then from 1940, for your Sunday delectation is an underground classic, with a scintillating forward by American anarcho-capitalist Albert Jay Nock:

Meditations in Wall Street

http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b3570107;view=1up;...

Re: The Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

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I have a copy on my nightstand that I read semi-frequently. It's interesting to keep in mind that he wrote them as a personal journal and never intended for his writings to be read by a broader audience. He frequently chastises himself and one of my favorite reflections comes from the beginning of Book V. The translation from the OP isn't the best but it's all I have on hand: "In the morning when thou risest unwillin…

I, too, keep a copy on the nightstand. It's the stoic's bible.
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