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Re: Ask HN: Founders whose startups have failed, where did life take you afterwards?

#101

We never made any money, and I was the only permanent technical staff (but also technically the CTO) but we had some amazeballs clients - Samsung, Siemens, Tesco, RIM (while they were still cool), and so on. When we stopped being able to pay me a salary, I turned it in to a real CTO job at a 150 person software company. Our client list gave some real credibility there, as did being able to talk a good talk and lookin…

You are suffering heavily from imposter syndrome.

Because there are so few 150 person companies, most CTO jobs are for small companies.

This doesn't make them any less of a CTO job. In fact, the hard decisions for a CTO are often going to be at the start. Choosing the stack, building the initial team and engineering culture...

So stop questioning yourself.

Re: Ask HN: Founders whose startups have failed, where did life take you afterwards?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first time I picked the wrong co-founders (friends and all were engineers). The second time I picked the wrong project. The third time my co-founder died. The fourth time I wanted to do it alone but I almost burned out before my family started to send the signal that it was time for a change but I still think the tech and project are excellent though.

> The third time my co-founder died Wow, don't see that one too often (fortunately)! Was it a kinda-sorta-expected thing (cancer, age, etc) or was it out of the blue?

He had a scooter accident. My feeling is that he probably had the accident because he was really pushing himself too much: he was barely sleeping 3h per night and in the end his life was totally unbalanced with lots of prescription pills to support it (sleeping pills, caffeine for day time, weight loss pills, etc).

Re: Ask HN: Founders whose startups have failed, where did life take you afterwards?

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Left me with a far better understanding of business, a lifetime of stories, some great friends, and a better engineering job.

Finishing a prototype this month and going to try it again, this time with a long time friend on the business side, and a developer who knows more than me on the tech side. As a leader you never want to be the smartest guy in the room.

Biggest take away was that leadership is far more about inspiring people than giving orders, you have to inspire people personally, and then inspire them on the shared vision.

Re: Ask HN: Founders whose startups have failed, where did life take you afterwards?

#104
Might be too soon to answer, my startup ( http://microco.sm/ ) just failed. As someone else put it: insufficient growth, ran out of runway. But at times I wonder whether it's because myself and my co-founder were of like skills and we didn't have a strong enough sales function. Whatever, we failed.

I've had ~10 opportunities presented to me since announcing we'd failed. They ranged from dev position through to CTO position, but ultimately I sent an email to CloudFlare and have joined their team.

A startup failing is traumatic. Aside from the emotional trauma it may lead you to doubt your own competency. I shine at product dev, and coding for that, so sought a place to do that. To regain confidence in myself.

I also wanted regular(ish) hours and salary, to build able to rebuild some stability. I'm getting married in a month's time and most of the cost of that will be on credit card (founding a startup empties your coffers). So it was important for me to be earning and giving our marriage a good start.

I may, in a few years, find that I want to return to the fray. But for the foreseeable future I feel deeply happy that I've joined a great team working on some hard problems, and that for myself I get stability out of it.

A startup is a ship at sea in a storm, I wanted to experience a boat in harbour for a while.

Re: Ask HN: Founders whose startups have failed, where did life take you afterwards?

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post #104

Might be too soon to answer, my startup ( http://microco.sm/ ) just failed. As someone else put it: insufficient growth, ran out of runway. But at times I wonder whether it's because myself and my co-founder were of like skills and we didn't have a strong enough sales function. Whatever, we failed. I've had ~10 opportunities presented to me since announcing we'd failed. They ranged from dev position through to CTO po…

Have you at all looked at selling microcosm as a upscale managed forum service? "Build a community" sounds like a far larger and less doable task than "host your forum with us".

Re: Ask HN: Founders whose startups have failed, where did life take you afterwards?

#106

Failed, job, startup -success...gave up company because of co- founder,started again.. startup- success...amazing journey first 3 years...next 4 years hell with business partner. I have failed in the year 2011 after 7 long years at my bootstrapped company. My business partner didn't want me around, I was pretty emotional after so many years, I felt it's time to accept fate n move forward. Broke up with my gf, I quit…

Why did you break up with your girlfriend initially and what motivated both of you to come back together?

Re: Ask HN: Founders whose startups have failed, where did life take you afterwards?

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post #104

Might be too soon to answer, my startup ( http://microco.sm/ ) just failed. As someone else put it: insufficient growth, ran out of runway. But at times I wonder whether it's because myself and my co-founder were of like skills and we didn't have a strong enough sales function. Whatever, we failed. I've had ~10 opportunities presented to me since announcing we'd failed. They ranged from dev position through to CTO po…

Have you at all looked at selling microcosm as a upscale managed forum service? "Build a community" sounds like a far larger and less doable task than "host your forum with us".

Our story is here: https://medium.com/@buro9/the-journey-of-a-london-startup-wh...

But in essence, we figured that out quite late... moving from helping to assist building a community to having created an import tool and to push our numbers harder by simply moving existing forums/communities to us.

We hit the end of the runway before the impact of that was felt. We didn't manage to raise enough funds to continue.

We've open-sourced everything now, and I'm helping a couple of customers set up their own instances. Most customers are staying on a single shared instance though, as one of the larger sites is able to cover all of the costs of this (via the affiliate fee structure we had built in).

It's a hard thing, to fail in such a way. We had 44,000 users, 280+ forums, and some revenue. But the revenue was significantly lower than costs (when you have employees, founders, etc), so the crunch hit us.

I hope that the platform continues to live, and that it continues to shine. The customers are really happy, and some of the sales effort is still paying off (I spoke to a customer 3 days ago, who have 4k users, and they are joining the LFGSS.com instance of the platform).

It would be easier if we had failed more spectacularly, more obviously. Perhaps by just not getting any users at all.

Re: Ask HN: Founders whose startups have failed, where did life take you afterwards?

#108
Did not do enough market research before building and launching product. A product similar to ours released some months ahead of us and got rave reviews in a lot of dev forums (HN included). Took that as validation of our product as well. Turns out, comments on HN don't really translate into money over the counter. Fast forward a year and we have near zero growth. Eventually both the similar product and us shut down.

After that I needed to rebuild some confidence in myself, so I joined a small consultancy company as a lead dev. It's been a year since that happened, and now I'm beginning to feel the startup itch again. Working on a few side projects. The plan this time around is to not quit the job and go full time on the startup till it starts producing a certain amount in monthly recurring revenue. Let's see how this goes...

Re: Ask HN: Founders whose startups have failed, where did life take you afterwards?

#109
I realised my startup had failed last year, and part of the realisation was that it was doomed from the start. When I was coming to terms with that I applied to a bootstrapped startup for which I'm now the CTO. It's nice to have a steady salary now while I learn a hell lot about how to run a successful business in the real world

Why did I fail? Well, basically what I wanted to achieve was only a nice idea, one that everyone loved when I explained it. But then, when we implemented it, it was so badly executed that it didn't do anything useful. Then we fell in the feature creep trap, I argued with my co-founder and he parted (because I didn't listen to him, and because he wasn't 100% committed), pivoted into another failing product (at least I managed to sell it and have some real customers) and finally entered into zombie mode for a while (actually the company is still officially in business as I had to take on some consultancy projects in order to pay back €50K in loans we took). Total time of my life spent: 4 years.

In the future, I will try it again, and of course I will do different. First of all, it'll be small from the start (I'm even thinking of doing something that just provides some passive side income, in the level of 1000€ a month). Then it will have to be profitable from the beginning.

Re: Ask HN: Founders whose startups have failed, where did life take you afterwards?

#110

I spent 2.5 years at a startup and did some of that time working purely for equity. I'm not sure if I count as a "founder", as it was unclear where the founder/employee distinction was, and I'd say that I was probably Employee #1 or #2 rather than "a founder". The truth? Ugh. The pitch is that, even if you fail, you'll learn a ton and be slotted into a much more senior role in your next job. The reality? Yes, you do…

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