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Building a CustoMac: Buyer's Guide

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Re: Building a CustoMac: Buyer's Guide

#31
I tried once but now I don't understand it.

The main benefit for me using OSx is that is a nix desktop os that works well on a very specific hardware. Having used linux on the desktop before for years I always had some problem with drivers and alike.

If I were willing to deal with these kind of issues I'd do it with some linux distribution not osx.

I guess there are some cases like developing software for Apple os.

Re: Building a CustoMac: Buyer's Guide

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Once it's set up and working the way you want, how often do you find yourself dealing with small issues?

Not the OP, but I built one based on one of these guides 2 years ago. The only problem I have is that once in a while (1-2 a month) the sound doesn't work after resuming from sleep. I have to reboot to get it back. Otherwise I don't have any issues. I'm running the latest Mavericks, could install updates etc.

I built a Yosemite based Hackintosh a few weeks ago and had a same problem except it occurred almost every time computer wakes up. Solution was to unload audio drivers before computer goes to sleep and then load them again when it wakes up. Somehow it works even when kext is in use and cannot be unloaded.

Re: Building a CustoMac: Buyer's Guide

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The point of giving the OS away was to encourage buying a new device. Especially when it sends you notifications/badges that the new OS is available - and then the new OS takes advantage of newer hardware features ... and for older hardware makes sure to let you know that your Mac/iOS device doesn't support this feature. The margins on selling the OS were never very good. Apple has always made the majority of their m…

> and for older hardware makes sure to let you know that your Mac/iOS device doesn't support this feature. Where is this case? In my experience, something I saw online simply wasn't available to me, like AirDrop, for instance. I upgraded my mid-09 MBP to 10.7, looked for AirDrop and couldn't find it. Same for Handoff and the Bluetooth-required new features in Yosemite. Apple doesn't go out of its way to inform me my…

Re Handoff in Yosemite... there are hacked kexts that make it work just fine in older (non BT LE/4) Macs (with regular BT) making it fairly clear that an artificial limitation was introduced.

Re: Building a CustoMac: Buyer's Guide

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post #28

While I'm not saying it's not fun to try and run OS X on PC hardware, can anyone explain to me how this is not morally equivalent to unauthorized copying / software piracy, given that they are both violations of the license agreement?

If you acquired the software legally, what then do you think?

Now ask yourself this question if you legally purchased Oracle or MSSQL, and were evaluating for an application, testing, etc - and now I inform you that that's unauthorized, and Oracle's license forbids you from doing any form of benchmarking related to the database. Do you feel that you are being immoral to test your application?

Re: Building a CustoMac: Buyer's Guide

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What's 'real' about the 'real' Mac Mini that's not real about this one? For one I would assume that since it's built up from separate parts you can upgrade it at will, something you can't really do with a 'real' Mac Mini.

> What's 'real' about the 'real' Mac Mini that's not real about this one? Warranty and support. If Apple releases an update that breaks your Hackintosh then too bad, if Apple does it to your $100 more legit Mac Mini then you can moan at them if nothing else. I do, however, completely agree with the upgrade argument. Particularly with the latest gen' of Mac Mini which don't allow the RAM to be upgraded because greed.

If your definition of support is the ability to "moan at [the vendor] if nothing else", is it really worthwhile to consider as an alternative? Your hardware is still warrantied by the respective vendors.

Re: Building a CustoMac: Buyer's Guide

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I know. What is funny is that they made OS X free despite that.

The point of giving the OS away was to encourage buying a new device. Especially when it sends you notifications/badges that the new OS is available - and then the new OS takes advantage of newer hardware features ... and for older hardware makes sure to let you know that your Mac/iOS device doesn't support this feature. The margins on selling the OS were never very good. Apple has always made the majority of their m…

I'd argue the point of giving the OS away for free was nothing to do with buying new devices. It was probably to make sure people upgraded sooner, rather than being put off by having to buy the new version. Better for the whole ecosystem.

Re: Building a CustoMac: Buyer's Guide

#37
It's worth noting that this site, TonyMacx86, isn't well-liked by some of the Hackintosh community, because they plagiarise and rebrand software and drivers helpful or necessary in Hackintosh setup. The guide may be useful, but please get your setup tools from the original sources.

My main source for this is conversations I've had in IRC, but it's also been noted elsewhere.[0][1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8]

Also, apparently they have weird anti-piracy measures on their software... software which they stole from others![9]

If you want Hackintosh install software which isn't stolen, I suggest myHack: http://myhack.sojugarden.com/ (I'm unaffiliated with it, but I've used it and I've had it recommended to me.) Unfortunately, myHack is now proprietary, because the author has had their code stolen in the past. It is, however, freeware.

[0] http://prasys.info/2011/01/tonymac-seriously/

[1] http://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/17cb3x/have_any_...

[2] http://gigabytedaily.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/gigabyte-uefi-bi...

[3] http://forum.osxlatitude.com/index.php?/topic/626-d620-help/

[4] http://archives.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3...

[5] http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?32906-ASUS-UEFI-vBI...

[6] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8468789 (HN post, turn on showdead)

[7] https://twitter.com/Zackehh9lives/status/337548817513717760

[8] http://forum.osxlatitude.com/index.php?/topic/3593-myhack-vs...

[9] https://web.archive.org/web/20130215124559/http://tkware.inf...

Re: Building a CustoMac: Buyer's Guide

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The Hackintosh movement is still going strong. One would think Apple would make their life difficult but quite the opposite appears to be the case: there are a few well-understood workarounds to get OS X working on an off-the-shelf PC, mostly just audio and networking. Be careful if you choose not to follow the guides, though! There's a reason most Hackintoshes use Gigabyte motherboards, Atheros wireless, etc. - Just…

I think Apple doesn't worry too much, their best customers, aren't techies. They may get a hackintosh up, but if there’s any frustration they probably will just go and get an all-apple product, which will "just work". And that's the attraction of Macs.

Re: Building a CustoMac: Buyer's Guide

#39
post #31

I tried once but now I don't understand it. The main benefit for me using OSx is that is a nix desktop os that works well on a very specific hardware. Having used linux on the desktop before for years I always had some problem with drivers and alike. If I were willing to deal with these kind of issues I'd do it with some linux distribution not osx. I guess there are some cases like developing software for Apple os.

I can only speak for myself, but I Hackintosh because I need more computrons than I can get in a retina MBP or a Mac mini and I'm not paying $5K for a Mac Pro. My desktop (a Nehalem i7 with a Radeon HD6870) is still competitive with every Mac they field, aside from that Pro, and I paid about a grand for it three years ago.

Even aside from the lack of basically essential applications like Photoshop and Illustrator, I'd rather invest a little effort making OS X work than work every day in a Linux environment. The desktop experience, be it GNOME or KDE or XFCE, is at best lukewarm and usually leaves me asking in vain why this software hates me and wants me to waste my time.

Re: Building a CustoMac: Buyer's Guide

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point of giving the OS away was to encourage buying a new device. Especially when it sends you notifications/badges that the new OS is available - and then the new OS takes advantage of newer hardware features ... and for older hardware makes sure to let you know that your Mac/iOS device doesn't support this feature. The margins on selling the OS were never very good. Apple has always made the majority of their m…

I'd argue the point of giving the OS away for free was nothing to do with buying new devices. It was probably to make sure people upgraded sooner, rather than being put off by having to buy the new version. Better for the whole ecosystem.

Well put. Its just like iOS--developers are happier if most people are running the latest version. Less version-fragmentation. The "less adopted" variants of Windows are a problem for development and testing. It might make sense to only support/test XP, 7, and 10--but what a mess that is.
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