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The Best Investment Advice You'll Never Get (2008)

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tldr If you're suddenly rich, pay $10 and buy $1 Million of Vanguard Total Stock Market Index. Giving your money to anybody else over the last 10 years would have yielded same or worse performance at a higher cost.

You may need to pay that $10 if you are investing through some other brokerage account. However, do yourself a favor, open an account with Vanguard directly and you can make that purchase without any fees.

Additionally, I'd recommend se percentage be invested in the Vanguard total bond market fund as well. Holding se percentage there will reduce overall portfolio volatility, and can actually increase returns slightly.

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I loved the first bit of this; that Google invested the time in their employee's education of what was about to happen with sudden riches.

I know it's starting to happen, but professional sports needs this same educational process. Recently watched the 30 for 30 documentary 'Broke' and it was so heartbreaking to see what happens to these athletes who have come from nothing, get a ton of cash all the sudden, and find themselves back where they started after the paycheck stops.

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This is great advice and what I have been doing for the last 3-4 years for our retirement portfolio. Prior to that we were using an 'investment guy' who had us in a bunch of high-cost funds.

I sent the guy and email and ended the relationship and took a couple months to read and learn about this. I recommend the "investor's manifesto" by William Bernstein for anyone interested.

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post #3

tldr If you're suddenly rich, pay $10 and buy $1 Million of Vanguard Total Stock Market Index. Giving your money to anybody else over the last 10 years would have yielded same or worse performance at a higher cost.

You may need to pay that $10 if you are investing through some other brokerage account. However, do yourself a favor, open an account with Vanguard directly and you can make that purchase without any fees. Additionally, I'd recommend se percentage be invested in the Vanguard total bond market fund as well. Holding se percentage there will reduce overall portfolio volatility, and can actually increase returns slightly…

To get the diversification benefit from holding the bond fund, you'd need to rebalance (every few months to every few years).

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Assuming you believe the underlying assumptions (and they very well may not be true), modern portfolio theory allows you to build a mathematically ideal portfolio for a given amount of risk.

The math behind MPT might be hand waved as followed: goal seek a maximum portfolio return by combining assets with minimal correlation under a fixed risk scenario. In the end, you will have portfolio that will give you the maximum theoretical return for your selected amount of risk.

In practice, outside of running a hedge fund, or a mutual fund with explicit investment guidelines (e.g. we invest in emerging market energy companies), a responsible asset manager has no choice but to follow MPT. In other words, if you are not a specialized fund, there is no mathematical justification for deviating from an MPT constructed portfolio. By definition, any deviation from a MPT balanced portfolio means you have either a) taken on more risk than necessary or b) reduced your potential return or c) do not believe in the underlying assumptions of MPT.

So what is the amateur person worth $25M to do today? As with all things, you should seek professional advice. There are many nuances of tax efficiency, estate efficiency, asset protection, personal needs, etc. that a professional advisor should guide you through.

Apparently the folks at WealthFront and FutureAdvisor are selling MPT driven portfolios to employees of SF bay area tech firms.

edit: As a couple of users point out below, there is controversy over the effectiveness of MPT including: whether the models effectively capture the distribution of risk vs return and whether the values desired by the models can be calculated with proper accuracy. PMPT (post-modern portfolio theory) builds upon MPT. Lastly there are critics such as Nassim Taleb (of Black Swan fame) who find some of the core assumptions flawed.

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tldr If you're suddenly rich, pay $10 and buy $1 Million of Vanguard Total Stock Market Index. Giving your money to anybody else over the last 10 years would have yielded same or worse performance at a higher cost.

You may need to pay that $10 if you are investing through some other brokerage account. However, do yourself a favor, open an account with Vanguard directly and you can make that purchase without any fees. Additionally, I'd recommend se percentage be invested in the Vanguard total bond market fund as well. Holding se percentage there will reduce overall portfolio volatility, and can actually increase returns slightly…

Asset diversification is more complicated than that. To a first order, yes stocks and bonds are inversely correlated. But it is not enough to hold just stocks and bonds.

In order to maximize return over your preferred time frame (while minimizing risk), you have to examine the whole universe of investable assets, examine their volatility as well as correlations amongst themselves.

From there, your goal is to assemble an ideal basket of assets maximizes your return for your personal level of risk. Running these filters and choosing when to rerun/rebalance is the basis of modern portfolio theory.

Managing your money using MPT is the service that many investment houses sell. Rolling your own is absolutely possible, but it is not as simple as stocks vs bonds.

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Assuming you believe the underlying assumptions (and they very well may not be true), modern portfolio theory allows you to build a mathematically ideal portfolio for a given amount of risk. The math behind MPT might be hand waved as followed: goal seek a maximum portfolio return by combining assets with minimal correlation under a fixed risk scenario. In the end, you will have portfolio that will give you the maximu…

>So what is the amateur person worth $25M to do today? As with all things, you should seek professional advice. There are many nuances of tax efficiency, estate efficiency, asset protection, personal needs, etc. that a professional advisor should guide you through.

While this is true, the problem that most advisors that a $25MM net worth individual has access to are mostly duds and/or salesmen.

Identifying true value add advisors is easier said than done, imo.

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