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Friends Don't Let Friends Clap on One and Three: A Backbeat Clapping Study

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Re: Friends Don't Let Friends Clap on One and Three: A Backbeat Clapping Study

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Conversely, how do you detect a Democrat? Don't worry, it's easy. They go around calling anyone who disagrees with them names, like "old, square, uptight, or alien."

Oh. And we all just learned not to expect Republicans or Libertarians to understand the concept of..."joke". You just confirmed the parent comment's point.

Democrats definitely think that Republicans are morally inferior to them, and vice versa. You can't really make jokes in a context like that because there is no distinction between a joke and an actual malignment. I definitely make jokes about Democrats, just not around Democrats, because there is just no point in maligning people to their face.

Re: Friends Don't Let Friends Clap on One and Three: A Backbeat Clapping Study

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If you get tired of 2 and 4, try this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVBoDx_1dTc [The First Circle -- Metheny/Mays]

For the curious... ||: 12/8 -♪♪-♪-♪♪-♪-♪ | 10/8 -♪♪-♪♪-♪-♪ :|| (- being a 1/8th pause, for the lack of a proper unicode character in whatever font I currently use to type this) from: http://www.stuartgreenbaum.com/downloads/files/%20First%20Ci... See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_musical_works_in_unusu...

Thanks for that. It took me a while, but over time I finally figured out the myriad time changes in that tune, at least for informal clapping purposes anyway. That said, they implemented at least one variation of the rhythm in some of their live concerts (see youtube) that still eludes me.

Pretty amazing that this one tune can result in a 50+ page analysis - your linked PDF. The composition is a masterpiece, quite possibly the one that the PMG will be most remembered for.

Re: Friends Don't Let Friends Clap on One and Three: A Backbeat Clapping Study

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Duke Ellington routinely gave his audiences a lesson in his inimitable style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPcZ5ex2t-g Harry Connick Jr. didn't bother educating his European audience with any explanation. He simply skips a beat, and then they're clapping on 2 and 4. It happens after the first sung chorus. You can see the drummer raise his hands in joy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD3iaURppQw And, of course, th…

Wow, that Gaillard piece is awesome. My sense of time improved immeasurably when I switched the metronome from counting on 1 & 3 to 2 & 4. It's now one of the first pieces of advice I give to budding musicians. That, and learn everything you play in all 12 keys.

What do you play and who instructed you to set the metronome to 1 & 3? (I'm a percussionist who's always used a quarternote counting metronome)

Re: Friends Don't Let Friends Clap on One and Three: A Backbeat Clapping Study

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My circle of friends used to joke about the "Republican Test." You administer it like this: play the song "I Heard It Through the Grapevine," ideally the Marvin Gaye version, and ask the subject to "clap along with the music" however he or she feels. Our unscientific observations showed a high correlation with 1/3 clapping and being old, square, uptight, or an alien from an unfunky and obsolete dying planet.

Conversely, how do you detect a Democrat? Don't worry, it's easy. They go around calling anyone who disagrees with them names, like "old, square, uptight, or alien."

Easy, bud. You're risking seeming uptight ;)

The alien thing is a reference to "Unfunky UFO," by Parliament. I recommend you listen to it. And don't clap on the 2s and 4s.

Re: Friends Don't Let Friends Clap on One and Three: A Backbeat Clapping Study

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh. And we all just learned not to expect Republicans or Libertarians to understand the concept of..."joke". You just confirmed the parent comment's point.

Democrats definitely think that Republicans are morally inferior to them, and vice versa. You can't really make jokes in a context like that because there is no distinction between a joke and an actual malignment. I definitely make jokes about Democrats, just not around Democrats, because there is just no point in maligning people to their face.

That should read culturally inferior, not morally.
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