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He has every right to do so, but I don't think he has the right to not have concerned people looking for him.
No where did I refute that.
SF Engineer Dan Ha Has Been Missing Since 10/31
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I guess that post has been removed by an admin because it contained personal information (wtf?!): http://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/2lhwzi/an_impo...
> As Reddit has strict site-wide policies pertaining to unverified personal information, Missing Person posts must be validated and reported by a local news service proving that the person is missing. Seems fairly reasonable to me.
Re: SF Engineer Dan Ha Has Been Missing Since 10/31
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An adult trying to disappear would not have a very hard time saying, "Hey, everybody! I'm going to take some time away from social media and go on a trip. I'll be back on-line in a couple months. I look forward to reading all your posts when I'm back." In some ways, I think social media makes it easier to disappear, as you can give everybody a plausible explanation at once, rather than trying to talk individually to…
I didn't mean go on a long vacation. I meant disappear and start a new life. You wouldn't post about that on social media, you'd just pack your bags and go. But social media will have your friends being detectives about where you've gone, someone from reddit might see you at the airport or grabbing coffee, etc.
He was someone with over a thousand Facebook friends, but no one seemed to notice that he stopped posting. The first few months he was missing, his friends continued to send him invites to parties, events, etc. As time when on and he didn't respond, they naturally stopped sending invites. A few friends sent emails saying, "Hey, I haven't seen you in a while. I'm worried. Call me." Eventually they too stopped. All it took was a matter of months before people stopped to reach out.
When news broke that he was first missing, his friends seemed more annoyed than anything. I suppose most of them thought this was a hoax (not that he's ever done anything like this before). They were reluctant to be bothered, to break up their day to simply answer a few questions the detectives had to paint a better picture of my brother. I don't blame them too much, no one wants additional drama in their lives.
Of course, the scenario will be unique for everyone. Everyone has a different group of friends, different resources. Unfortunately for me, I was blocked. I practically had access to all his accounts with the help of his girl friend, but at the end of the day, I couldn't get a subpoena to see if there were any deleted gmail or facebook messages. I wasn't able to get a subpoena to track the cellphone fast enough. He was just casted off as a statistic, just another quarter-life crisis suicide case. I sincerely hope the family gets some good news about Dan Ha, because there's nothing worse than having to wake up every morning wondering if you could have done more.
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> As Reddit has strict site-wide policies pertaining to unverified personal information, Missing Person posts must be validated and reported by a local news service proving that the person is missing. Seems fairly reasonable to me.
Does not seem reasonable to me (especially for reddit) but maybe I'm missing something.
Reddit admins take it pretty seriously.
It's weird what they do and don't care about.
Re: SF Engineer Dan Ha Has Been Missing Since 10/31
#25You should post this at http://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco as well.
So, we have a rule that a news organization (which has more of an ability to vet a story, as well as a "the cat's already out of the bag" effect) has to cover it before it can be posted – and you'll notice the story is now on r/sanfrancisco since one did.
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Does not seem reasonable to me (especially for reddit) but maybe I'm missing something.
One of the things that will get your account banned or your sub-reddit closed is people posting personal information. Reddit admins take it pretty seriously. It's weird what they do and don't care about.
Reddit has expressed that it wants to be totally neutral so that it can model a "new type of online meta-community" that has literally no curation for types of communities. They want to have /r/MensRights'ers and /r/feminisms'ers on the same site, fighting with each other, generating ad impressions. They want to attract white supremacists and misogynists and feminists and people of color alike.
So, the main thing they need to guard against is conflict on reddit spilling over into the real world, and the best way to do that is to strictly prohibit posting personal information.
Of course, "personal information" doesn't extend to things like naked photos taken and distributed without the consent of those depicted, but you can't use that to make Reddit a scary place for misogynists. So it's okay.
Re: SF Engineer Dan Ha Has Been Missing Since 10/31
#28Just curious for case like this: Can someone take a missing person report from Police department and take it to Cell phone company and get any cell location traces for those period of time? Assuming the cell is on. Can anyone do it or just someone from police department?
If only it were that easy... my brother went missing in February 2009 and as of today it's still an "ongoing" investigation. I was basically blocked at every turn... In order for to get a cellphone log or trace, the detectives on the case needs to file for a subpoena. A judge will then need to sign off on it which takes 24-48 hours. Following that, they need to submit it to the cellphone company which claims it might…
Notice also that nobody needs to file a subpoena. The cell companies can just hand it over, and often do. Because your brother is less important to the police than a drug dealer, they're not willing to blackmail the cell companies.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
No where did I refute that.
Looks like we're bound to keep replying to each other "but I didn't claim that either."
Re: SF Engineer Dan Ha Has Been Missing Since 10/31
#30You should post this at http://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco as well.
/r/sanfrancisco mod here. It's a tough call, and one that Reddit Admins (not mods) have mostly decided for us. The worry is this: an abusive ex could post a "missing persons" alert for someone trying to hide, and get their location. So, we have a rule that a news organization (which has more of an ability to vet a story, as well as a "the cat's already out of the bag" effect) has to cover it before it can be posted –…