Amazing how at this point we can pretty much find anything through digital means as nearly everything is shared and appears online eventually. Yet we still fail to find something (or someone) that really matters.
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SF Engineer Dan Ha Has Been Missing Since 10/31
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Re: SF Engineer Dan Ha Has Been Missing Since 10/31
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
On the flip side, if you're an adult and trying to "disappear" for.. whatever reason you've chosen (it's your prerogative), social media has made that difficult.
An adult trying to disappear would not have a very hard time saying, "Hey, everybody! I'm going to take some time away from social media and go on a trip. I'll be back on-line in a couple months. I look forward to reading all your posts when I'm back." In some ways, I think social media makes it easier to disappear, as you can give everybody a plausible explanation at once, rather than trying to talk individually to…
or just drop out of social media without notice, far better than letting know your plans. Its so very easy to vanish in this country if you are smart. Most of those who do only get caught by chance or some stupid act.
One recent in Georgia was only caught as part of a traffic stop.
Re: SF Engineer Dan Ha Has Been Missing Since 10/31
#13Just curious for case like this:
Can someone take a missing person report from Police department and take it to Cell phone company and get any cell location traces for those period of time? Assuming the cell is on.
Can anyone do it or just someone from police department?
Re: SF Engineer Dan Ha Has Been Missing Since 10/31
#14Just curious for case like this: Can someone take a missing person report from Police department and take it to Cell phone company and get any cell location traces for those period of time? Assuming the cell is on. Can anyone do it or just someone from police department?
This depends on where you are located, but for the most part the answer is no - unless you are a member of a law enforcement agency you will not be able to get this data from the cell phone company. Depending on the country, cell phone provider and law enforcement agency, they will probably need a warrant or court order as well.
Re: SF Engineer Dan Ha Has Been Missing Since 10/31
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
On the flip side, if you're an adult and trying to "disappear" for.. whatever reason you've chosen (it's your prerogative), social media has made that difficult.
An adult trying to disappear would not have a very hard time saying, "Hey, everybody! I'm going to take some time away from social media and go on a trip. I'll be back on-line in a couple months. I look forward to reading all your posts when I'm back." In some ways, I think social media makes it easier to disappear, as you can give everybody a plausible explanation at once, rather than trying to talk individually to…
I didn't mean go on a long vacation. I meant disappear and start a new life. You wouldn't post about that on social media, you'd just pack your bags and go. But social media will have your friends being detectives about where you've gone, someone from reddit might see you at the airport or grabbing coffee, etc.
Re: SF Engineer Dan Ha Has Been Missing Since 10/31
#16You should post this at http://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco as well.
I guess that post has been removed by an admin because it contained personal information (wtf?!): http://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/2lhwzi/an_impo...
> As Reddit has strict site-wide policies pertaining to unverified personal information, Missing Person posts must be validated and reported by a local news service proving that the person is missing.
Seems fairly reasonable to me.
Re: SF Engineer Dan Ha Has Been Missing Since 10/31
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
An adult trying to disappear would not have a very hard time saying, "Hey, everybody! I'm going to take some time away from social media and go on a trip. I'll be back on-line in a couple months. I look forward to reading all your posts when I'm back." In some ways, I think social media makes it easier to disappear, as you can give everybody a plausible explanation at once, rather than trying to talk individually to…
I didn't mean go on a long vacation. I meant disappear and start a new life. You wouldn't post about that on social media, you'd just pack your bags and go. But social media will have your friends being detectives about where you've gone, someone from reddit might see you at the airport or grabbing coffee, etc.
He has every right to do so, but I don't think he has the right to not have concerned people looking for him.
Re: SF Engineer Dan Ha Has Been Missing Since 10/31
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
An adult trying to disappear would not have a very hard time saying, "Hey, everybody! I'm going to take some time away from social media and go on a trip. I'll be back on-line in a couple months. I look forward to reading all your posts when I'm back." In some ways, I think social media makes it easier to disappear, as you can give everybody a plausible explanation at once, rather than trying to talk individually to…
or just drop out of social media without notice, far better than letting know your plans. Its so very easy to vanish in this country if you are smart. Most of those who do only get caught by chance or some stupid act. One recent in Georgia was only caught as part of a traffic stop.
Or the Eric Frein case in Pennsylvania, where the idea of searching abandoned buildings in the area apparently never occurred to the elite state and Federal police agencies.
You don't have to be smart to hide from the police... you just have to be smarter than the police. Of course, they have the advantages of unlimited money, unlimited patience, and (apparently) unlimited surveillance power, so staying hidden for the rest of your life is going to be a lot harder than dropping out of sight in the first place.
Re: SF Engineer Dan Ha Has Been Missing Since 10/31
#19Just curious for case like this: Can someone take a missing person report from Police department and take it to Cell phone company and get any cell location traces for those period of time? Assuming the cell is on. Can anyone do it or just someone from police department?
If only it were that easy... my brother went missing in February 2009 and as of today it's still an "ongoing" investigation. I was basically blocked at every turn...
In order for to get a cellphone log or trace, the detectives on the case needs to file for a subpoena. A judge will then need to sign off on it which takes 24-48 hours. Following that, they need to submit it to the cellphone company which claims it might take a billing cycle before the data is provided since it's on the "cell towers" and it's not transmitted yet. Even then, the information is useless. It's nothing more than what you receive on your monthly billing statement.
Police has no authority to just do it since it's up to the cellphone provider.
Re: SF Engineer Dan Ha Has Been Missing Since 10/31
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
I didn't mean go on a long vacation. I meant disappear and start a new life. You wouldn't post about that on social media, you'd just pack your bags and go. But social media will have your friends being detectives about where you've gone, someone from reddit might see you at the airport or grabbing coffee, etc.
He has every right to do so, but I don't think he has the right to not have concerned people looking for him.
No where did I refute that.