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Re: Amazon Echo

#371

Watch the promo video again and pretend it's the first few minutes of a horror movie. A package arrives on the front porch. The family brings it in and opens it. It's Alexa. It's "for everyone," says Father. The next few days are blissful. Alexa integrates herself into the family. She is indispensable. How did they ever get by without her? Father rushes in from the backyard, "Alexa, how tall is Mt. Everest?" Alexa an…

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Re: Amazon Echo

#372

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While we're being positive, I absolutely do not think Amazon would be stupid enough to shoot themselves in the foot sending all recorded data up to the cloud. I'm certain that within a few hours of release, someone will have a network monitor hooked up. Their findings will be widely known almost immediately, and this thing would be dead in the water if they were sending everything up. They know this already.

This very likely uses network speech recognition, so most things (except for the wake-up word) are being streamed up and recognized in Amazon's data center (Siri, SVoice, etc all do this also)

Exactly. Casual conversation won't be sent up; only commands.

Re: Amazon Echo

#373
This all reminds me of "AutoPC" from Clarion in the late 90's[1]. A friend of mine had it in his truck, it truly was amazing at the time -- he could make phone calls, play music, render maps on his display, you name it, all hands free on a tiny little SH-3 processor running windows CE (yes, remember that?!) under his seat.

It's sad it really hasn't progressed very far -- Essentially, we've moved on to cloud-hosted audio analytics to handle better speech recognition, but the usage of the thing really hasn't changed.

[1]: http://news.cnet.com/Clarion-to-build-AutoPC-using-MS-softwa...

Re: Amazon Echo

#374

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While we're being positive, I absolutely do not think Amazon would be stupid enough to shoot themselves in the foot sending all recorded data up to the cloud. I'm certain that within a few hours of release, someone will have a network monitor hooked up. Their findings will be widely known almost immediately, and this thing would be dead in the water if they were sending everything up. They know this already.

This very likely uses network speech recognition, so most things (except for the wake-up word) are being streamed up and recognized in Amazon's data center (Siri, SVoice, etc all do this also)

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Re: Amazon Echo

#375

> With enhanced noise cancellation, Echo can hear you ask a question even while it's playing music. I read: "Our cloud servers can hear you, no matter what." It's a killer idea. It's too bad privacy concerns might lead it to an early grave.

Opt-in to 1984 for only $199! ($99 if you belong to Amazon Prime)

Once everybody has it, it will be easy to pinpoint the few without one as the people with something to hide.

Re: Amazon Echo

#376

I recently bought into the Sonos ecosystem. While it is pretty limited in some ways (I can't just stream stuff playing on my phone to the Sonos speakers, for example if I am playing a random YouTube video), it has one really good thing going for it: it can sync playback between an arbitrary number of speakers. This is my new standard for this type of thing: speakers that cannot do this are inferior to Sonos. In that…

> well, I can always unplug it.

And how long until this is the norm and we stop even talking about the privacy implications? How long after that point the notion of privacy stops existing?

Re: Amazon Echo

#377

Watch the promo video again and pretend it's the first few minutes of a horror movie. A package arrives on the front porch. The family brings it in and opens it. It's Alexa. It's "for everyone," says Father. The next few days are blissful. Alexa integrates herself into the family. She is indispensable. How did they ever get by without her? Father rushes in from the backyard, "Alexa, how tall is Mt. Everest?" Alexa an…

Hah. After reading this, I really kind of want Amazon to release a version of this that looks like HAL. They should embrace their dark side.

Re: Amazon Echo

#378

Does anybody know what Amazon Echo will be using as their search engine - Google, Bing? Or is Amazon developing their own search/knowledge engine? If so, is this just the beginning of Amazon trying to encroach on Google Search?

I would guess it's A9 http://a9.com/whatwedo/

Re: Amazon Echo

#379
post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While we're being positive, I absolutely do not think Amazon would be stupid enough to shoot themselves in the foot sending all recorded data up to the cloud. I'm certain that within a few hours of release, someone will have a network monitor hooked up. Their findings will be widely known almost immediately, and this thing would be dead in the water if they were sending everything up. They know this already.

SmartTV and other home-automation-with-voice-recognition device manufacturers would like a word with you.

Actually it's the other way around. We (as consumers) should have a word with them.

Re: Amazon Echo

#380
Well it looks like Amazon just did the market research for anyone that's wanted to make an open source version of this.

Like these guys have: http://jasperproject.github.io/

I've had this idea sitting in the back of my brain for years, worked up some simple prototypes (just using computer's mic), the technology is already there and surprisingly simple (made simple for the layman by brilliant people)...

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