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On the community I have no idea, but I imagine the next reincarnation of these type of markets will have to be managed by lone wolfs out of a cave in Afghanistan.
in all seriousness perhaps iranian hosts would be a viable route
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Shame on the US government for threatening the public with the enforcement of its own laws.
That statement nonspecifically threatens anyone who "hides behind a keyboard". Also, this threat comes without any determination that the law has been broken; there has been no conviction. I have no problem with assurance that the law will be faithfully executed. This isn't that. This is inflicting fear to suppress people you disagree with. If only we had a buzzword for that.
The government disagreed with black markets, and they will enforce their will by shutting it down.
If not the DEA or the FBI, then the IRS will.
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In which the purpose of the press release (and bust) is revealed: to threaten the public and make an example. The usual stuff you expect out of an upstanding agent of democracy.
Shame on the US government for threatening the public with the enforcement of its own laws.
Maybe the title should be, "FBI Announces Silk Road 3.0" :-) And I agree, folks seem to be running these things out of the US rather than out of say the Cayman islands or Belize where is it easier to level the playing field with respect to the authorities.
I'm not so sure. There have been offshore gambling sites (sports, poker etc...) that have been shut down before with the cooperation of local authorities, although not always easily. They may see revenue for local industry as a nice plus, but not so nice as to risk the ire of the U.S. govt. In the end, your allies offshore may only be as loyal as the force they're willing to ignore. And your friends may only be as tr…
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That statement nonspecifically threatens anyone who "hides behind a keyboard". Also, this threat comes without any determination that the law has been broken; there has been no conviction. I have no problem with assurance that the law will be faithfully executed. This isn't that. This is inflicting fear to suppress people you disagree with. If only we had a buzzword for that.
This is assurance to the public that the law will be faithfully executed. They are assuring the public that the FBI is capable of investigating crimes even on the internet.
Or more simply put, exceptional circumstances have now become a rule rather than an exception.
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On the community I have no idea, but I imagine the next reincarnation of these type of markets will have to be managed by lone wolfs out of a cave in Afghanistan.
in all seriousness perhaps iranian hosts would be a viable route
Maybe the title should be, "FBI Announces Silk Road 3.0" :-) And I agree, folks seem to be running these things out of the US rather than out of say the Cayman islands or Belize where is it easier to level the playing field with respect to the authorities.
If you mean the operators' physical locations, sure, that could help.
If you mean servers, the FBI complaint claims that SR 2.0 server was hosted in a foreign country.
> "In or about May 2014, the FBI identified a server located in a foreign country that was believed to be hosting the Silk Road 2.0 website at the time. [1][2]
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8568219 [2] https://pdf.yt/d/RpyX9_xmapTkhmkb
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Nothing. Prop 47 is a state measure for simple possession. This is conspiracy to traffic, interstate wire fraud, federal crimes prosecuted under federal statutes. Even if these were state charges Prop 47 didn't really change much (or anything) sentencing for sales.
Conspiracy to traffic? Doesn't seem like it. Is it something that makes trafficking easier? Sure. But who did the trafficking? The seller and the buyer. Wire fraud? If it's the sale of something illegal I don't think that suddenly makes it wire fraud. Further, he's not charged with that. The sale is still completed. It's an illegal sale, but not fraud. Fraud would be if someone said they were going to sell you cocain…
Just in case you didn't know:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_%28criminal%29
Conspiracy law usually does not require proof of specific intent by the defendants to injure any specific person to establish an illegal agreement. Instead, usually the law requires only that the conspirators have agreed to engage in a certain illegal act.
Clearly, there was an agreement set forth. The owner of SR2.0 took money in exchange for people selling their goods and services on his site. If the site had some kind of terms of the agreement, which sellers had to ok, then he's screwed.
>> Wire fraud?
http://definitions.uslegal.com/w/wire-fraud/
The essential element to be proved is that the person knowingly and willfully devised or intended to devise a scheme to defraud; and that the use of the interstate wire communications facilities was closely related to the scheme because the person either wired something or caused it to be wired in interstate commerce in an attempt to execute or carry out the scheme.
This means he knew what he was doing was illegal and the use of the internet to essentially launder his money is what they're going after. Not the sale of the narcotics, but the transfer of money for ill gotten gains, which defrauded the US Government of tax revenue.
Anyone who knows more about tor than me care to explain how DNS works on onion sites? I assumed that it would be distributed in some sort of way that prevented this sort of thing from happening? Or does transferring ownership require the owner's credentials to be compromized?
You seize the server running the tor software serving as entry-point for your hidden service and grab the private keypair in order to impersonate the hidden service. The .onion address is iirc a hash of the public key.
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Nothing. Prop 47 is a state measure for simple possession. This is conspiracy to traffic, interstate wire fraud, federal crimes prosecuted under federal statutes. Even if these were state charges Prop 47 didn't really change much (or anything) sentencing for sales.
Conspiracy to traffic? Doesn't seem like it. Is it something that makes trafficking easier? Sure. But who did the trafficking? The seller and the buyer. Wire fraud? If it's the sale of something illegal I don't think that suddenly makes it wire fraud. Further, he's not charged with that. The sale is still completed. It's an illegal sale, but not fraud. Fraud would be if someone said they were going to sell you cocain…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(criminal)#United_St...
Thus it's conspiracy if you are party to an agreement which involves you receiving a bitcoin commission (legal end) as a result of the trafficking of drugs (illegal action.)
If they're charging wire fraud, I think that may be part two of the complaint, "Conspiracy to Commit and Aid and Abet Computer Hacking." Probably people were using the site to sell hacking services or hacking tools which could be used to defraud people.