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Re: Amazon Echo

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I'm a little frustrated at the moment -- The future is arriving with voice controlled devices, yet I don't trust any of these companies with my words.

The path to more reliable voice recognition is through data and companies race to gather the most of it. The companies that do win this race are the ones, who can serve as interfaces to tomorrows services.

But this data capture could be done through different means. That doesn't require capturing private conversations.

Re: Amazon Echo

#92

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I grow tired of this pathetic baseless fear mongering every single time anything is posted with voice control. You people completely ignore the mode of operation and start making idiotic claims about "well NSA!" In this case, as the website makes clear, you have to say the word "Alexa" for it to start listening. If you had been paying attention to the mobile scene even a little bit you'd know that this is on-chip lis…

>Echo's brain is in the cloud, running on Amazon Web Services so it continually learns and adds more functionality over time.

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Re: Amazon Echo

#93

> With enhanced noise cancellation, Echo can hear you ask a question even while it's playing music. I read: "Our cloud servers can hear you, no matter what." It's a killer idea. It's too bad privacy concerns might lead it to an early grave.

I grow tired of this pathetic baseless fear mongering every single time anything is posted with voice control. You people completely ignore the mode of operation and start making idiotic claims about "well NSA!" In this case, as the website makes clear, you have to say the word "Alexa" for it to start listening. If you had been paying attention to the mobile scene even a little bit you'd know that this is on-chip lis…

Unless the chip design, the firmware, the OS, the software is 100% open source, there is no way to confirm "Nothing will be transmitted to the cloud". It could be an update check, or it could be the transmission of a new voice fingerprint.

Same shit with cellphones, I have to admit.

Re: Amazon Echo

#95
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The Xbox kinect already does this AND records video, millions of gamers own one as well.

At least the backlash and market demand made the Kinect optional.

Yea but I think that was more because of the added cost and not the privacy implications.

Re: Amazon Echo

#96

This "internet-of-things" trend coincides unfortunately with the "dragnet surveillance" trend. With every new product launch from a "cloud company," I increasingly feel as if I'm reading the tombstone of modern society. The selling point behind these devices is convenience, but at the cost of security. I don't think I need to explain to HN why an always-on, internet connected voice recording device is something to ke…

> The selling point behind these devices is convenience, but at the cost of security. I don't think I need to explain to HN why an always-on, internet connected voice recording device is something to keep out of your house.

Do you have any computers in your house? A TV made in the last few years? A smartphone?

Re: Amazon Echo

#97
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Why are you saying things you don't want the cloud to know about anyway?

Are you trolling? Do you know nothing about privacy?

I'm pretty sure that's a tongue-in-cheek reference to the pro-surveillance argument that 'if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear'.

Re: Amazon Echo

#98
Amazon can now hear everything you say and target ads to your conversations. I'm surprised Google didn't release this.

Re: Amazon Echo

#100

I'm a little frustrated at the moment -- The future is arriving with voice controlled devices, yet I don't trust any of these companies with my words.

None of the voice controlled devices I've ever used have been a pleasant experience (Google, Siri, various others). I don't think the tech is there yet personally.

They might have it down for certain english accents but even as a native speaker, their success rate is probably about 25% for me.

On a related note, iPhone's dictation just took a huge step backwards with the new iOS release.

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