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Re: Independence Day

#41
I'm not sure what's the reason to be cynical here. I'm an iOS developer who uses an Android device personally and I'm loving this new Microsoft (Post Ballmer). This was exactly the wish of developers in 2002, that MS should become contributing OpenSource citizen.

The Roslyn project, F#, Docker integration, MS Band etc clearly show that MS has learned it's lessons and are responsible citizens of OSS world.

Kudos Microsoft.

Re: Independence Day

#42

Terrible web design for those of us with a vision impairment.

Maybe they are trying to make those of us who are sighted experience the hardships of being unable to understand what is being communicated to us?

They could've just showed nothing and had an audio file on there, then. Or apply a CSS blur over everything.

Re: Independence Day

#43
post #36

This has got to be the first article I've read that has incorporated ambient sound. The loop is terrible, but it's still pretty awesome! The coconuts were annoying though.. I hope more articles introduce ambient sound... I'm imagining this being integrated into novels. Also, this is fantastic. I can totally see this being of interested to the sighted as well; maybe it would see better uptake than glass.

That's what I was thinking about - inner-ear bluetooth stereo headset that does the basics like notification pings, but perhaps also act as a 6th sense, things like navigation cues so you can use your navigation app on your bicycle without blocking your hearing or looking at your phone.

Re: Independence Day

#44

I'm not sure what's the reason to be cynical here. I'm an iOS developer who uses an Android device personally and I'm loving this new Microsoft (Post Ballmer). This was exactly the wish of developers in 2002, that MS should become contributing OpenSource citizen. The Roslyn project, F#, Docker integration, MS Band etc clearly show that MS has learned it's lessons and are responsible citizens of OSS world. Kudos Micro…

Just for your last two sentences. No. MS hasn't changed much. They noticed that after losing in mobile, they also started to lose developers as well. So they are just trying to look cute.

I will perhaps re-iterate my thoughts once Ms stop extorting Android device manufacturers for BS software patents. Until then, I am not touching anything from them.

Re: Independence Day

#45
post #7

The site is unreadable. Here is the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEzncMLLOxE

I was a little confused by the complaints, because it worked great for me on Firefox Mobile 33 (ignoring the sloppy editing that resulted in one paragraph appearing twice, search for the phrase "blue whale").

Then I tried again on a desktop. Well, crap.

Resize your browser window until the site switches to tablet mode if you want to read it.

Re: Independence Day

#46
My one quibble with the article is that calling Reading a suburb of London is quite misleading. I understand (North?) Americans use the word differently to Europeans on the whole, but Reading is a Medieval town with a net commuter flow inwards - it's the local hub of economic activity, and is the largest town (it hasn't got city status) in the UK.

For context, in terms of its economy, size, distance from London etc, it's not much different to calling Oxford or Windsor a suburb of London.

Re: Independence Day

#47
post #44

I'm not sure what's the reason to be cynical here. I'm an iOS developer who uses an Android device personally and I'm loving this new Microsoft (Post Ballmer). This was exactly the wish of developers in 2002, that MS should become contributing OpenSource citizen. The Roslyn project, F#, Docker integration, MS Band etc clearly show that MS has learned it's lessons and are responsible citizens of OSS world. Kudos Micro…

Just for your last two sentences. No. MS hasn't changed much. They noticed that after losing in mobile, they also started to lose developers as well. So they are just trying to look cute. I will perhaps re-iterate my thoughts once Ms stop extorting Android device manufacturers for BS software patents. Until then, I am not touching anything from them.

I can't believe I'm defending Microsoft, as I was a hardcore Linux guy back in the days.

To answer your question, Microsoft is not only about mobile. Their work on Roslyn compiler, F#, Reactive Extensions, SignalR, ASP.Net vNext etc is high quality open source. Moreover if they make their tools open and play nice with Android/iOS etc, we all win, right?

Re: Independence Day

#48
post #7

The site is unreadable. Here is the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEzncMLLOxE

I had no problems reading it.

I only see a lot of lines stretching up and down, left and right and sometimes some images and some text appears randomly here and there. It's difficult to know where do I need to stop scrolling in order to continue reading. I understand if some images take some time to load, I would wait for them to load if I had something to read. Having to wait a couple of seconds looking at an empty page while the text is loading? Come on, 14400 modems were faster than this page.

Re: Independence Day

#49
post #36

This has got to be the first article I've read that has incorporated ambient sound. The loop is terrible, but it's still pretty awesome! The coconuts were annoying though.. I hope more articles introduce ambient sound... I'm imagining this being integrated into novels. Also, this is fantastic. I can totally see this being of interested to the sighted as well; maybe it would see better uptake than glass.

That's what I was thinking about - inner-ear bluetooth stereo headset that does the basics like notification pings, but perhaps also act as a 6th sense, things like navigation cues so you can use your navigation app on your bicycle without blocking your hearing or looking at your phone.

Also think self-tours. People could setup tours around places like Rome and vote them up. You load it up, then walk around the city getting tips on the hot spots and history. I believe there is a lot of potential for this sort of contextual audio cuing.

Re: Independence Day

#50
IMO the biggest news about it is MS putting their clout behind it. A blind friend of mine told me a few years ago already he participated in some kind of experiment with mobile navigation. He then preferred his own ears and guide dog. But then, this was just before the smartphone revolution really took off, and we got ubiquitous Internet all over the place. I think right now is a better moment than back then.

While I'm here I still do want to complain about the website :P Why? Because it stressed me out. There's no reason a webpage should go out of their way to do that. It made me nervous how much of the text+pictures only started to fade in as I already scrolled halfway past it. Why does it even need to fade at all? It's already scrolled in and out of view. I guess this is an example of how, with normal pages, everybody has their own customary way of navigating the information, and as designers take more and more control of that experience, it's going to cause friction and differences. I can imagine how this could match someone's particular way of interacting with a page, but it's not mine. I stopped reading halfway through as it was stressing me out (I didn't need this before my first coffee was yet to kick in).

Regardless, as everyone is screaming, let's pay attention to this great project, helping blind people.

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