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Re: Dropbox is in your Office

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Post by xerophyte12932 »

diminoten wrote: post #91
Rumudiez wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment made me curious. When I went to check the actual terms of service, I found this line: "Some of our Services allow you to upload, submit, store, send or receive content. You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours." which is suddenly followed up by: "When you upload, submit, store, send or receive content to or through o…

> Google does take a copy of all rights pertinent to the work. A limited copy, only for use in "operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones." In other words, you agree to let everything you upload to Google be used for testing. Anyone who's alienated by this shouldn't be putting content on non-owned servers in the first place. "The Cloud" isn't for your secret documents, it's for your fa…

>A limited copy, only for use in "operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones

also to:

>reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content

So not even family photos because you lose the right to keep them private.

Re: Dropbox is in your Office

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Post by lentil_soup »

nashequilibrium wrote: post #156
lentil_soup wrote: post #68

I stopped using Dropbox after the whole Condoleezza Rice thing and have been using a mix of Google Drive and OneDrive and I must say I like them a lot better. They do the same (and more if you use other Google Apps) and prices are cheaper. Are there any benefits to using Dropbox? Are there any other real alternatives you could recommend to give them a try?.

Geeez, can we just stop with this, you are now giving your data to google which has your search history, email etc! If you going to have this stance, build your own solution and host it along with your own email and search engine. I personally fear facebook, google more than the NSA.

For me it's not so much about the NSA as about her involvement in torture and war around the world. I know me "rage quitting" dropbox doesn't change a thing but it means something to me.

I know my own solution would be the best and so an actual question. Would it make sense to use private servers (think AWS) to run something custom made or would that just be exactly the same (they would still be able to read my stuff)?

Re: Dropbox is in your Office

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Post by cerberusss »

yawgmoth wrote: post #132
lentil_soup wrote: post #68

I stopped using Dropbox after the whole Condoleezza Rice thing and have been using a mix of Google Drive and OneDrive and I must say I like them a lot better. They do the same (and more if you use other Google Apps) and prices are cheaper. Are there any benefits to using Dropbox? Are there any other real alternatives you could recommend to give them a try?.

I use https://www.copy.com/home/ . Copy is ran by Barracuda. My only current grief is the lack of 2 factor authentication, but they have stated that is on the near roadmap.

Yeah, I use it and like it a lot so far. It's 20 GB free with a referral. I got mine up to 65 GB.

Re: Dropbox is in your Office

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Post by lkozma »

dylz wrote: post #89
xedarius wrote: post #88

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I never tried these guys as their pricing seemed too good to be true. https://hubic.com/ Maybe someone can comment if they've used them in anger.

They are run by what is arguably the largest hosting provider[1]. It's definitely going to "work" mind you, but outside of EU the speeds may be a tad abysmal. It's standard OpenStack storage and it's possible to mount FUSE drive, so no terrible client. I use it and have no complaints, just don't expect 1 ms read times as a mounted drive, etc. [1] http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/05/14/whos-... (ctrl+f…

unrelated to the topic, but I had to smile at "a tad abysmal".

Re: Dropbox is in your Office

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Post by willyt »

Why does nobody ever mention BitTorrent sync as an alternative in these discussions? Is there some reason why it's not favoured that I have missed? Edit: Just in case this reads as baiting somehow, it's not it's a genuine question.

Re: Dropbox is in your Office

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Post by xentronium »

themartorana wrote: post #67
ceejayoz wrote: post #63

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Can we not do the Reddit novelty accounts thing?

Why do you hate fun? Edit: Why does everyone hate fun?

It's unfair to say that HNers hate fun, only this particular flavor of it that degrades signal/noise ratio too much.

Re: Dropbox is in your Office

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Post by dummyfellow »

diminoten wrote: post #190
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The quoted license: "The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones." That sounds like it should be limiting but a new service can be "giving away copies of stuff we found in peoples gdrives". Would everyone hate Google for that, yes; would that break their ToS, no. You retain copyright control, means they can't sell [other…

Another part of the quoted license: > You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours. Whatever anything else says in the ToS, this wins. Explicit statements always trump implications in contracts. You take that to court, show the judge, and you're on your way to dinner with your winnings later that very same day. This ToS is not capabl…

It explicitly says you license them('Google') the content for promoting their services.

Re: Dropbox is in your Office

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Post by diminoten »

dummyfellow wrote: post #198
diminoten wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another part of the quoted license: > You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours. Whatever anything else says in the ToS, this wins. Explicit statements always trump implications in contracts. You take that to court, show the judge, and you're on your way to dinner with your winnings later that very same day. This ToS is not capabl…

It explicitly says you license them('Google') the content for promoting their services.

Is this some kind of irrevocable license that you, as copyright holder, must adhere to forever and always?

Or is it a license you can revoke at any time?

Re: Dropbox is in your Office

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Post by dabockster »

lentil_soup wrote: post #68

I stopped using Dropbox after the whole Condoleezza Rice thing and have been using a mix of Google Drive and OneDrive and I must say I like them a lot better. They do the same (and more if you use other Google Apps) and prices are cheaper. Are there any benefits to using Dropbox? Are there any other real alternatives you could recommend to give them a try?.

* Disclaimer: I currently have roughly 19GB for free on Dropbox through 5 years of hunting for promos. I've used about a quarter of it.

Dropbox is more modular, IMO. I've seen some cool tricks to run websites, backup Instagram photos, etc, all from Dropbox.

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