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Dropbox is in your Office

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Re: Dropbox is in your Office

#101

I'm surprised by Microsoft's move here. Why would Microsoft not use OneDrive instead of Dropbox? Dropbox is surely a great product but Microsoft has something similar already. Am I missing something?

My guess: you either push for universal adoption of Office and Office formats or OneDrive. Office is a bigger deal for Microsoft than OneDrive so they went with the former.

Re: Dropbox is in your Office

#103

I stopped using Dropbox after the whole Condoleezza Rice thing and have been using a mix of Google Drive and OneDrive and I must say I like them a lot better. They do the same (and more if you use other Google Apps) and prices are cheaper. Are there any benefits to using Dropbox? Are there any other real alternatives you could recommend to give them a try?.

Have you had any sync problems with OneDrive or Google Drive? After switching to OneDrive from Dropbox six months ago I've continuously had problems with OneDrive syncing correctly and resolving conflicts by silently dumping a copy of the file into the directory for me to sort out later. Worse it does this silently so I often don't know a sync conflict happened. Trying out Zocalo now with better results but was curio…

I can't remember having those sync issues. I do remember a couple of times it was hard to tell if it had finished synching as it seemed to be doing nothing visually, that's the only issue I remember.

Will look into Zocalo to see what they offer.

Re: Dropbox is in your Office

#104

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My hope is that will never happend. It's just hope. Since FoxPro many years ago, there is not a single acquisition by Microsoft that turned in a great product or an improvement to the end user (please, include in this scope Groove Networks, whichi was great at that time).

There's lots of good Microsoft acquisitions since FoxPro. Like: - Visio - Bungie Software (Halo) - Groove etc... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisition...

Yeah but has any of it got better?

Skype, Halo, Minecraft? I think not.

Re: Dropbox is in your Office

#105

Microsoft integrating with competitor's products, this sounds news to me. A really good move, for both companies.

>Microsoft integrating with competitor's products, this sounds news to me. Or as it was previously known, "Embrace".

Indeed.

Embrace. Integrate Office with it. Extend. Buy DropBox. Extinguish. Merge DropBox with OneDrive.

Wow didn't expect this comment to bring on the downvotes.

Re: Dropbox is in your Office

#106

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>Microsoft integrating with competitor's products, this sounds news to me. Or as it was previously known, "Embrace".

Indeed. Embrace. Integrate Office with it. Extend. Buy DropBox. Extinguish. Merge DropBox with OneDrive. Wow didn't expect this comment to bring on the downvotes.

That isn't the original meaning of the term "Embrace. Extend. Extinguish." which harks back to the Microsoft monopoly trial:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish

> The strategy's three phases are:[11]

> Embrace: Development of software substantially compatible with a competing product, or implementing a public standard.

> Extend: Addition and promotion of features not supported by the competing product or part of the standard, creating interoperability problems for customers who try to use the 'simple' standard.

> Extinguish: When extensions become a de facto standard because of their dominant market share, they marginalize competitors that do not or cannot support the new extensions.

Re: Dropbox is in your Office

#107
post #98

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> Google does take a copy of all rights pertinent to the work. A limited copy, only for use in "operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones." In other words, you agree to let everything you upload to Google be used for testing. Anyone who's alienated by this shouldn't be putting content on non-owned servers in the first place. "The Cloud" isn't for your secret documents, it's for your fa…

The show-stoppers are "... promoting and improving our Services, and to develop new ones". Suppose I use Google Drive to store my current project, a big-ass novel that's going to see simultaneous publication by major publishers in a number of markets around the world. Google could in principle give it away for free to new sign-ups for their service as a promotional goodie. Or "develop new ones" ... well, we already h…

> Google could in principle give it away for free to new sign-ups for their service as a promotional goodie.

No they couldn't, because other parts of their ToS explicitly let you retain control over your copyright. You'd sue them, and win. Also, they'd lose all their customers and probably shut down the Google Drive program entirely.

Maybe we should just try and find a lawyer to interpret this impartially (something you should do anyway if you're trying to pick a ToS that's "compatible" with your needs -- you really don't want to get burned by a tricky ToS, do you?), but as far as I understand the whole point of this passage is to allow Google to use your data to test their products, e.g. facial recognition, translation, etc., in an automated fashion.

Exactly like Gmail, I am guessing the contents of individual user's drive accounts are probably scraped at regular intervals by machines for all sorts of purposes. This passage is a CYA for that activity. They're not looking for sneaky ways to get your book into their store.

I'm not saying "use Google Drive over Dropbox!", because I don't give a hoot. But the Drive ToS isn't why you shouldn't use Google Drive.

Re: Dropbox is in your Office

#108

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>Microsoft integrating with competitor's products, this sounds news to me. Or as it was previously known, "Embrace".

Indeed. Embrace. Integrate Office with it. Extend. Buy DropBox. Extinguish. Merge DropBox with OneDrive. Wow didn't expect this comment to bring on the downvotes.

And how is this different from what every major tech company attempts to do?

Re: Dropbox is in your Office

#109
post #78

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Last time I looked at the Google Drive terms of service -- which was admittedly years ago (I ought to check again) -- they were basically unacceptable for me because Google were demanding a perpetual non-exclusive copyright license to everything I stored there which would have allowed for unlimited reproduction or use for any purpose Google felt like making of it. It looked like your standard boilerplate land-grab, a…

This comment made me curious. When I went to check the actual terms of service, I found this line: "Some of our Services allow you to upload, submit, store, send or receive content. You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours." which is suddenly followed up by: "When you upload, submit, store, send or receive content to or through o…

"publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content"

Well that's terrifying given that my phone uploads every picture I take to Google's services.

Re: Dropbox is in your Office

#110
post #94

Microsoft integrating with competitor's products, this sounds news to me. A really good move, for both companies.

Makes you wonder why MS doesn't just release a protocol that all cloud service providers can hook into...

They pretty much have an API for everything now.
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