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Re: The end of AI winter?

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The problem with AI development seems to be the assumption that it's going to be a useful business tool. This is sort of like assuming that an artificial organism created in the lab will make a good secretary.

Re: The end of AI winter?

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The problem with AI development seems to be the assumption that it's going to be a useful business tool. This is sort of like assuming that an artificial organism created in the lab will make a good secretary.

I think another problem is the expectation of what AI will look like at all. We think of intelligent human-like robots like something from science fiction, when in reality AI could just be a bit of code running on a standard machine with specific and likely specialized inputs and outputs.

Think of an AI machine working with atmospheric data as one "sense" combined with seismic data and some others, with the directed goal of predicting certain types of disasters (tsunamis...?).

Free will and emotions are other assumption we would likely not give these machines, so the worry of self-interest may not exist either, which would aid in making it good at something useful for us.

Re: The end of AI winter?

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The problem with AI development seems to be the assumption that it's going to be a useful business tool. This is sort of like assuming that an artificial organism created in the lab will make a good secretary.

Not sure if this is what you're trying to say, but I see it as similar to some MBA somewhere claiming that QuickSort is a business tool. Sure it is... in the loosest sense of the term 'business tool.' AI is a generic term that has many different meanings to many different people. Many people still think of AI as a computer program/robot with sentience.

Re: The end of AI winter?

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The problem with AI development seems to be the assumption that it's going to be a useful business tool. This is sort of like assuming that an artificial organism created in the lab will make a good secretary.

It will be much more than just a business tool. But it wont be today.

Re: The end of AI winter?

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The problem with AI is that people try to call simple heuristics and learning algorithms AI, while what we're actually seeing is an overglorified Eliza.

The term Intelligence sets the expectation of "universal learning", not just solving problems we previously thought to be hard. And the research necessary to accomplish that, probably isn't even in the same direction as these fraud AI algorithms. The Biological Computer Laboratory (which died because AI took all the funding) under Foerster probably had a better shot at solving these problems than the AI Lab under Minsky ever had.

This overselling soaked up the funding with empty promises and killed more basic longterm research. Lets hope serious researchers find a way to get their research funded again, despite the AI shills.

Re: The end of AI winter?

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post #3

The problem with AI development seems to be the assumption that it's going to be a useful business tool. This is sort of like assuming that an artificial organism created in the lab will make a good secretary.

I think another problem is the expectation of what AI will look like at all. We think of intelligent human-like robots like something from science fiction, when in reality AI could just be a bit of code running on a standard machine with specific and likely specialized inputs and outputs. Think of an AI machine working with atmospheric data as one "sense" combined with seismic data and some others, with the directed…

I took a class with leading AI researcher Patrick Winston in the spring... it really is one of the most fascinating fields right now. If there is to truly be an "AI spring" then it will likely require massive collaboration between not just computer scientists, but researchers in a wide span of fields including neuroscientists, general biologists, psychologists, and even philosophers.

Free will and emotions are other assumption we would likely not give these machines, so the worry of self-interest may not exist either, which would aid in making it good at something useful for us.

The question is, is it even possible to mimic human intelligence without emotion or free will? Who is to say they aren't wholly dependent on one another?

And if any group of people finds out how to imbue a machine with free will, I'd bet my life they'll go through with it.

Re: The end of AI winter?

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We do have search engines, which are pretty sweet and vaguely related to artificial intelligence. The future of AI will probably be similar - we'll get more cool stuff, but it will not be Data from Star Trek, it will be something we didn't expect.
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