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Why Silicon Valley Works

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Re: Why Silicon Valley Works

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Post by scobar »

anateus wrote: post #2

Two sentences early on are problematic: "One of the biggest misconceptions about us is that you need to have pre-existing connections to get value from the network. Remarkably, you don’t. " If Sam had said "you need them in Silicon Valley much less than anywhere else" it would be a true statement. But in an article I strongly agree with, this sort of thing... I'm not even sure what to call it, misinformation? Makes t…

I agree that accessing the right networks will help tremendously, but I also believe that Sama's statement is accurate. One doesn't need pre-existing connections. This almost subtle, yet much more important condition was included shortly after the quote you mentioned: "If you build something good, people will help you."

A grand vision alone won't get someone nearly as far as it may have in the late 90s. A prototype that is nearing that vision with each quickly released new iteration seems to be the entry barrier for someone with no pre-existing connections.

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Post by cfield »

steven2012 wrote: post #17

No. The reason why Silicon Valley works is because of the intense greed that it provokes amongst everyone that comes here. Maybe "greed" is too strong of a word, because people aren't necessarily selfish, maybe "money-focused" is probably more accurate. And because anyone can come here and become a millionaire/billionaire, it draws in an immense number of hard-working people which just generally increase the level of…

Given the broad geographic footprint of the HN community, I'm curious what folks here think about how much of a role that a tolerance of failure plays in Silicon Valley's track record of supporting commercial innovation.

I don't know if others agree (and it's no doubt an over-generalization), but my intuition is that commercial failure lacks the stigma in Silicon Valley that it does in most other places. Much ink has been spilled on the topic and some have even suggested that Silicon Valley has a "Failure Fetish".[1]

It seems popular to trace the roots of this and other cultural features of Northern California (e.g., 60s counterculture) to the Gold Rush of 1849. But perhaps it simply another artifact of startup density that Sam suggests is so critical?

[1] A sampling from various forums: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/03/silicon-valley-... http://www.npr.org/2012/06/19/155005546/failure-the-f-word-s... http://www.inc.com/eric-markowitz/brilliant-failures/why-sil... http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/225202 http://blogs.berkeley.edu/2010/10/18/silicon-valleys-greates... http://paw.princeton.edu/issues/2013/03/06/pages/1054/ http://techcrunch.com/2010/10/17/japan-to-fix-your-economy-h... http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/blog/2012/12/does-silicon... http://www.quora.com/How-has-Silicon-Valley-developed-and-su...

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Post by nerfhammer »

joshhart wrote: post #6

My biggest concern with Silicon Valley is that it will become so expensive that many potential startups are prevented from coming here. Sam also stated that housing costs were the biggest weakness. I wonder what YC could do about this problem for it's companies. I think it would be interesting for YC to build a few high-rise live-work spaces for smaller YC companies to foster and grow the tightly-knit community. Mayb…

> build a few high-rise

The dominant political view in the area is that building high-rise anything anywhere is something that should be stopped at all costs

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Post by clairity »

steven2012 wrote: post #17

No. The reason why Silicon Valley works is because of the intense greed that it provokes amongst everyone that comes here. Maybe "greed" is too strong of a word, because people aren't necessarily selfish, maybe "money-focused" is probably more accurate. And because anyone can come here and become a millionaire/billionaire, it draws in an immense number of hard-working people which just generally increase the level of…

sounds like it's not the place for you. a household making "only" $120k, no matter where you live, puts you in the top 15% by income in the US--hardly the "working poor" (see census data).

trying to keep up with the joneses, on the other hand, can warp your sense of relative privilege. top 15% in the US is among the top few percent in the world. keep that in mind, and that'll help assuage the negative feelings that can arise from comparing yourself to those you otherwise consider your peers.

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Post by sama »

lolwutf wrote: post #5

'I wrote this for the FT, but it's behind a paywall. Since I wrote it, I feel like it 's probably ok for me to post it here. ' If the FT paid you to write it, I feel like it's probably not ok to post it where you'd like.

they didn't pay me.

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steven2012 wrote: post #17

No. The reason why Silicon Valley works is because of the intense greed that it provokes amongst everyone that comes here. Maybe "greed" is too strong of a word, because people aren't necessarily selfish, maybe "money-focused" is probably more accurate. And because anyone can come here and become a millionaire/billionaire, it draws in an immense number of hard-working people which just generally increase the level of…

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Re: Why Silicon Valley Works

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Post by 2pasc »

steven2012 wrote: post #17

No. The reason why Silicon Valley works is because of the intense greed that it provokes amongst everyone that comes here. Maybe "greed" is too strong of a word, because people aren't necessarily selfish, maybe "money-focused" is probably more accurate. And because anyone can come here and become a millionaire/billionaire, it draws in an immense number of hard-working people which just generally increase the level of…

What you are talking about is a new phenomenon. Silicon Valley in 2008 was different - rents were lower, and $120K with 2 kids and one income was OK. There has been a dramatic increase in rent/real estate prices in the last 6 years that has completely schewed the system and the culture. Silicon Valley has thrived in years when rents were OK, people were not greedy and yet great Companies were built.

I remember going out of Stanford in 2003 - at the time a job at Oracle for a CS MS grad was awesome - and yet, people went on to create Facebook, LinkedIn, and all these Companies, and rent were OK, salaries were good, and you had this mindset of "I am going to give this a shot" everywhere that is at the heart of Silicon Valley.

Extreme greed as you describe is a new thing. It may have been there in 99-01 but I can tell you none of that was there in 01-04 and it was much less profound in 06-09.

The reality is that all things work in cycles. People who genuinely love tech will stay, others will go back to Wall Street or Consulting.

Re: Why Silicon Valley Works

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Post by 2pasc »

steven2012 wrote: post #17

No. The reason why Silicon Valley works is because of the intense greed that it provokes amongst everyone that comes here. Maybe "greed" is too strong of a word, because people aren't necessarily selfish, maybe "money-focused" is probably more accurate. And because anyone can come here and become a millionaire/billionaire, it draws in an immense number of hard-working people which just generally increase the level of…

What you are talking about is a new phenomenon. Silicon Valley in 2008 was different - rents were lower, and $120K with 2 kids and one income was OK. There has been a dramatic increase in rent/real estate prices in the last 6 years that has completely schewed the system and the culture. Silicon Valley has thrived in years when rents were OK, people were not greedy and yet great Companies were built.

I remember going out of Stanford in 2003 - at the time a job at Oracle for a CS MS grad was awesome - and yet, people went on to create Facebook, LinkedIn, and all these Companies, and rent were OK, salaries were good, and you had this mindset of "I am going to give this a shot" everywhere that is at the heart of Silicon Valley.

Extreme greed as you describe is a new thing. It may have been there in 99-01 but I can tell you none of that was there in 01-04 and it was much less profound in 06-09.

The reality is that all things work in cycles. People who genuinely love tech will stay, others will go back to Wall Street or Consulting.

Re: Why Silicon Valley Works

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Post by john_b »

clairity wrote: post #24
steven2012 wrote: post #17

No. The reason why Silicon Valley works is because of the intense greed that it provokes amongst everyone that comes here. Maybe "greed" is too strong of a word, because people aren't necessarily selfish, maybe "money-focused" is probably more accurate. And because anyone can come here and become a millionaire/billionaire, it draws in an immense number of hard-working people which just generally increase the level of…

sounds like it's not the place for you. a household making "only" $120k, no matter where you live, puts you in the top 15% by income in the US--hardly the "working poor" (see census data). trying to keep up with the joneses, on the other hand, can warp your sense of relative privilege. top 15% in the US is among the top few percent in the world. keep that in mind, and that'll help assuage the negative feelings that c…

Being in the top 15th percentile of income might not be as much of a consolation if you live in the second most expensive metro area in the U.S.
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