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Re: Ask HN: How much you make working remotely?

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You're wrong though, at least in my case. My pay doesn't change at all and I move quite often.

I'm sure there are exceptions, and one of the big gotchas with all of this is that employers do all in their power to figure out what's a "reasonable" increase and not pay huge raises. If you're paid at a certain level, and there exists a job that will pay you 50% more, there are basically 2 possibilities: 1) You know that job exists, and there are others like it, and you don't want it because it requires you to come…

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Re: Ask HN: How much you make working remotely?

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I don't think it works that way. Workers aren't paid by the value they create to the company. That sets a ceiling, but the floor is set by the competitive market. How little can you pay somebody to take that job and do the work you need done? That effectively bubbles up from the local cost of living and is modulated by availability of workers. Hard-to-find software engineer in SF? Going to pay even more than the craz…

You're wrong though, at least in my case. My pay doesn't change at all and I move quite often.

Yes, he's wrong. I do quite well working remotely and every offer I've received for which I'd have to work in a $%^&ing open office (because open office good, cubicle bad plus mandatory daily Jar Jar meeting at no additional cost(1)) would have entailed a 25-50% pay cut.

My advice is to refuse in every way you can to be the generic fungible engineer most management wishes you to be, and to instead specialize in emerging technologies. When such technologies are in demand, your compensation will skyrocket.

1. http://softwaremaestro.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/scrum-master...

Re: Ask HN: How much you make working remotely?

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With 60% oDesk clients and 40% other remote clients, back in 2012, I did around 17k $ in the whole year. I explained it at the end of this post http://malditointer.net/after-working-1200-hours-in-odesk/

I keep working in remote for hand-picked clients. I raised my rates (I started really low, 8$/hour, coming from non-technical background at all). My current rate is 25$/h, and I have started to take some projects that imply some development (ruby on rails, html/css).

AMAnything if you feel like! Willing to help or solve some doubts.

Re: Ask HN: How much you make working remotely?

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This would work better as a poll so people can answer anonymously.

No, it would not. This doesn't work, and neither would a poll. To be clear: we can have an interesting discussion on salaries, value of employees, etc. but if anyone takes any of these numbers, from this post, or a poll, and does so much as average them, they would immediately produce meaningless data. Some reasons:

- Participation is voluntary, the group is self-selected. This in itself renders all results meaningless.

- HN polls let you vote on more than one option, yet you only have one salary.

- Time of day bias. It is currently lunch hour on the east coast, and morning in the Bay area. Remote developers living in the UK, Thailand, etc. are on yet a different schedule.

- Whenever a discussion like this pops up, the workers have an incentive to lie. If you say "I am top talent in my field and I make [2x my actual salary]", and enough people do this, you might actually raise the expectations of the employers. This discussion is actively giving a voice to the workers, and they have a huge reason to misrepresent facts for personal benefit.

I really wish HN got rid of polls. People tend to treat them as valuable data, and they are really just noise. The discussions are great, but the number noise is worthless.

Re: Ask HN: How much you make working remotely?

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working hour or two a day? What's your work schedule looks like? curious to know.

I am doing maintenance programming for living (in Delphi 5), which usually consist of long list of small problems and changes: I am usually trying to do one or two things a day, generate new binaries and send it to customer so he have something new to play with. I am usually working on my own things till, say 5 or 6 and then do my daily work for my customer.

I loved Delphi 7. Nowadays I do web dev, but it was just so fast to create a full-featured app with Delphi. Lazarus isn't there yet, unfortunately.

Re: Ask HN: How much you make working remotely?

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About $115K/annum working remotely—probably about the same as if not. As @stephencanon said, an employer that suspected there was a downside in productivity for remote workers (and I'd say it's at least equally likely that working remotely results in higher productivity on average) could assuage their own concerns by remembering the significant (~50% of salary?) savings from not having to pay for air conditioning, he…

Can I ask what your job is? Sounds like you won the remote working game

Re: Ask HN: How much you make working remotely?

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I know three people who work 100% remote, full-time for rates equivalent to 130-185k+ per year.

Interestingly, I'd always thought of remote workers as either high-end technical specialists working as-needed or cheap bodies being delegated to.

These folks all fall somewhere in the middle with the common factor being soft / niche skills - they work for sort of places that most people would run away from and work on things the most people haven't touched in years.

Two of them started out on-site, but were so valuable the company was happy to allow remote work in order to keep them on staff.

Re: Ask HN: How much you make working remotely?

#48
Living in East Europe, working as a consultant (C++, no web dev) remotely for West European company. Making 10x more of what I'd make locally (Senior/Lead role).

I've changed several jobs during the last decade, always tripling the next salary (of course I've never mentioned my previous salary) - and I've always given the rate I asked for.

So, if you want to make more - just ask for it.

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