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How much does one cost in NYC?
How much ya got?
Downvoting comments like that is pointless and should be banned.
Police allow car break-ins to become a Seattle growth industry
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The police are motivated by being safe – actually dealing with criminals is dangerous, so the police are motivated to avoid them. http://www.cracked.com/article_21830_cops-wont-help-you-7-th...
That's a great Cracked article, one of my favorites. But one guy's perspective on a couple of cops in one specific incident is hardly conclusive. If being safety is what motivates you, there are more sensible career paths than policing.
But there are no career paths that offer the same amount of power and authority at the lowest level as being a police officer does. That is a powerful attractor for the power hungry, but once they have the power, they have absolutely no incentive to risk their personal safety.
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#145I don't understand this story. Why wouldn't the police do anything? If I'm an officer who's motivated by helping others, it's a clear way to do that. If I'm motivated by a desire for justice, easy way to promote that. If I'm motivated by power, I can go take down the thieves and bring them down a notch. Perhaps one explanation is that the police get enough zany people calling in about enough zany things that they don…
What incentive do the police have to actually help anyone? The police chief answers to the mayor, but everyone else in the department is pretty much unaccountable. Have a complaint about your PD's conduct? Great, fill out this complaint form so that they can file it away. Unfortunately, police work isn't really appealing to your typical idealist who wants to better his/her community, so appealing to officers' sense o…
My interactions have generally been limited. Three or four traffic tickets, with a couple of warnings. An interview after I was held up at gunpoint, a conversation with a county cop who evaluated our townhouse for security. All, even the ones giving me tickets, were polite.
I get the impression that the HN crowd interacts with those of who end up working as cops or firemen not a whole hell of a lot. Did you go to school with cops' and firemen's kids?
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As I understand current SF politics, trying to change things makes you the subject of hatred and protests. Not an encouraging set of results.
How can this possibly be? How is it possible for the leftists to have an absolute stranglehold on San Francisco politics, especially for so long? Is there not even a moderate wing, here?
Like most any place, the people were there first see themselves as priviledged and those who come later as undeserving. In SF, this takes the form of "natives" and "techies".
Left and right is the wrong way to look at it.
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I disagree. It's a negative step - don't do X, for some value of X. OK. Fine. What's next? I asked in search of positive steps.
Tackling stigma is a positive step. I don't know why you don't get that. It is more than just "don't do x". You're just arguing about words. "Don't discriminate against people with a mental illness when recruiting for a job" becomes "give people with a mental illness the same treatment at job interviews". But if you want a bigger list: Reform the broken healthcare model in the US Push for evidence based treatment. Th…
Find me a qualified candidate who can function in my workplace, and there won't be any discrimination issues. That doesn't mean I'm going to tolerate the sort of acting out described above. I can and do regularly work with the mentally ill, but I'm not about to go recruiting amongst the homeless in hopes of finding a skilled software engineer.
"Reform the broken model" is a positive, actionable step in the same way that "Change the culture!" is a positive, actionable step. Which is to say it's a statement of a goal rather than anything immediately useful. But more "arguing about words", right?
You shouldn't cite the suicide rate without context. Following your link, SF is doing better than average in California.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
I disagree. It's a negative step - don't do X, for some value of X. OK. Fine. What's next? I asked in search of positive steps.
Tackling stigma is a positive step. I don't know why you don't get that. It is more than just "don't do x". You're just arguing about words. "Don't discriminate against people with a mental illness when recruiting for a job" becomes "give people with a mental illness the same treatment at job interviews". But if you want a bigger list: Reform the broken healthcare model in the US Push for evidence based treatment. Th…
I don't know why you don't get "violent behavior in public is not acceptable". We'll never be satisfied with "its ok to hurt people if you're part of a stigmatized subgroup". Its not ok. Its not going to be ok, and its not stigmatizing to recognize violent offender in public - its reality. They need to be stopped, period.
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#149What you do when dispatch refuses to help you? you suddenly remember perp was smoking pot and/or had a gun.
Or you could become an important politician. Couple of years ago whole police force of my country capital city was mobilised because member of parliament wifes car got stolen. Took them an hour to track it down using GSM triangulation (purse with phone in the car).
Guess what happens when you tell cops your car was stolen, but you have active tracker in it and can tell them where it is. Easier to get few big guys and deal with it yourself.
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#150This is the flip side of the new powers granted to police under laws such as the Patriot Act. Yes, they have more power than ever before to spy on you. No, they won't arrest criminals, even after you have tracked down the criminals yourself. The government needs expanded powers so it can spy on you, not the criminals. Certain classes of criminals are high profile (drug dealers!) and there is a certain prestige in get…
> the new powers granted to police under laws such as the Patriot Act. Yes, they have more power than ever before to spy on you. No, they won't arrest criminals, even after you have tracked down the criminals yourself. The government needs expanded powers so it can spy on you, not the criminal Surely it's possible to use the same database collecting info on Patriot Act violations to sift through and report on petty c…
>If the police won't do it then surely there's someone out there who could hack into the machines running the algorithms for such terrorism and high profile crime prediction to do the same for car breakins?
you were sane right up until you hit NCIS hacker territory.