Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not funding. It's the relative power of unions. In California, a cop costs $200k a year, when pensions and health care are factored in.
How much does one cost in NYC?
How much ya got?
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Re: Police allow car break-ins to become a Seattle growth industry
#102Perhaps this is a also a growth opportunity for a private security firm. Call us, we will use our trained armed personnel to confront the suspects and return your stuff. I would hope that it would not take too many incidents of private security 'resolving' issues to see that a police force doing its job is a far more preferred solution.
I don't think it is legal to use deadly force to retrieve stolen goods, yours or anyone else's. You'd have to staff your firm with off duty cops or something to skirt that law.
In some states, you can use deadly force to prevent someone from stealing your stuff.
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#103Washington is a conceal carry friendly state, I wonder how reporting an attempt at a citizens arrest would have changed the situation. Here in Santa Cruz we have a very high property/lifestyle crime problem, thankfully the PD haven't given up, but the courts have made things here basically catch and release. The story basically comes down to laziness on the part of the police. Seattle doesn't have the budget problems…
> Washington is a conceal carry friendly state, I wonder how reporting an attempt at a citizens arrest would have changed the situation. I'm a big believer in the Second Amendment. It's not about duck hunting. And in an ideal world what you suggest would be OK. HOWEVER, we don't live in an ideal world. So IMO concealed carry is now about personal protection and not about retrieving stolen iPhones.
"It's not about duck hunting"
Yeah, it's about suppressing slave revolts.
Re: Police allow car break-ins to become a Seattle growth industry
#104Take care of the small stuff and the big stuff will take care of itself. The broken windows theory is a criminological theory of the norm-setting and signaling effect of urban disorder and vandalism on additional crime and anti-social behavior. The theory states that maintaining and monitoring urban environments in a well-ordered condition may stop further vandalism and escalation into more serious crime[1]. From the…
Urban decay refers to buildings and infrastructure falling apart. That is not happening in downtown Seattle. It seems you are using the term to refer to scary-looking people.
Nah, you're thinking of downtown Tacoma. The University of Washington is picking up the tab for a lot of the restoration, but it still on a multi-decade time table.
Re: Police allow car break-ins to become a Seattle growth industry
#105I'm learning Javascript and the MEAN stack right now, and I'm really interested in building a small crowdsourced website for this.
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not funding. It's the relative power of unions. In California, a cop costs $200k a year, when pensions and health care are factored in.
That's not true at all. California cops can make $200k a year cash just with overtime and incentives. Including pension schemes and other benefits, it's common for mid-career CA cops to make upwards of $500k. Consider that 25 year CHP officers can collect lifetime pensions at the highest pay, including overtime accumulated from previous years and cashed out. At a US inflation adjusted bond discount rate of 0-1% typic…
>Including pension schemes and other benefits, it's common for mid-career CA cops to make upwards of $500k.
Could you provide a source for this? I checked the salary database for the city and county of San Francisco and, while there were 2099 people in the police department with total pay over $100,000, nobody had total pay of $500,000 - and the maximum was $345,000.
http://www.sfgate.com/news/databases/?appSession=45847910566...
Re: Police allow car break-ins to become a Seattle growth industry
#107It seems like a day doesn't go by when I don't read an article like this one and think of NWA's succinct summary of police in America.
Re: Police allow car break-ins to become a Seattle growth industry
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Washington is a conceal carry friendly state, I wonder how reporting an attempt at a citizens arrest would have changed the situation. I'm a big believer in the Second Amendment. It's not about duck hunting. And in an ideal world what you suggest would be OK. HOWEVER, we don't live in an ideal world. So IMO concealed carry is now about personal protection and not about retrieving stolen iPhones.
"It's not about duck hunting" Yeah, it's about suppressing slave revolts.
It's about a lot of things, not just slave revolts. E.g. the whiskey rebellion:[1]
[President] Washington responded by sending peace
commissioners ... while at the same time calling on
governors to send a militia force to enforce the tax.
With 13,000 militia provided ... Washington rode at
the head of an army to suppress the insurgency
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not true at all. California cops can make $200k a year cash just with overtime and incentives. Including pension schemes and other benefits, it's common for mid-career CA cops to make upwards of $500k. Consider that 25 year CHP officers can collect lifetime pensions at the highest pay, including overtime accumulated from previous years and cashed out. At a US inflation adjusted bond discount rate of 0-1% typic…
>Including pension schemes and other benefits, it's common for mid-career CA cops to make upwards of $500k. Could you provide a source for this? I checked the salary database for the city and county of San Francisco and, while there were 2099 people in the police department with total pay over $100,000, nobody had total pay of $500,000 - and the maximum was $345,000. http://www.sfgate.com/news/databases/?appSession=4…
Maybe from working side jobs? Most police departments offer a ton of various side jobs. Be it renting out officers to basically do security for various businesses, or working at understaffed or undesirable locations. These jobs usually pay really well, sometimes between 60-80 dollars an hour.
I have no clue if this extra pay would be shown in city salary databases, but I wouldn't be surprised if not.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
New York can also manage to win a World Series without allowing the city to be taken over for the night by violent, destructive mobs. That's because they have a much better funded, and well-run, police force.
It's not funding. It's the relative power of unions. In California, a cop costs $200k a year, when pensions and health care are factored in.
public unions are a scam. Who exactly are you negotiating against? Oh yeah, the taxpayer.