If you get tired of 2 and 4, try this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVBoDx_1dTc
[The First Circle -- Metheny/Mays]
Friends Don't Let Friends Clap on One and Three: A Backbeat Clapping Study
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Re: Friends Don't Let Friends Clap on One and Three: A Backbeat Clapping Study
#52My circle of friends used to joke about the "Republican Test." You administer it like this: play the song "I Heard It Through the Grapevine," ideally the Marvin Gaye version, and ask the subject to "clap along with the music" however he or she feels. Our unscientific observations showed a high correlation with 1/3 clapping and being old, square, uptight, or an alien from an unfunky and obsolete dying planet.
Conversely, how do you detect a Democrat?
Don't worry, it's easy. They go around calling anyone who disagrees with them names, like "old, square, uptight, or alien."
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
How can you tell he skips a beat? Or for that matter the difference between beats 1 and 3 vs 2 and 4? Music is such a mystery to me. :/
The vast majority of music has what's known as a meter, which is a cyclical pattern. Just like we can think of time in terms of a neverending stream of occurrences, or choose to think in terms of a 7-day week, we simplify the understanding of musical events by counting in a regularly repeating meter . This song's meter is in 4/4, which means you count 1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4, etc. along with the very pulse you feel. Tap your…
I like the days-of-the-week analogy, but in this case he adds a fifth beat to a bar, so it's like he's adding a fifth day to an otherwise four-day week, as follows:
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
C - C - C - C - C - C - C - C - C
Re: Friends Don't Let Friends Clap on One and Three: A Backbeat Clapping Study
#54The rhythm tengoku series of games will teach you about stuff like this.
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#55"Taj Mahal found it distressing when his audience clapped wrong because it felt like a failure to emotionally connect with them."
How do they know this? Did they ask him or is this their assumption based on their expectations. It is annoying enough when researchers impute motive and thought to inanimate things. But people actually have them so it is all the more frustrating if they are assuming they know what he's feeling.
The beat you emphasize has a great effect on the feel of the rhythm. Instead of "feeling like he failed to connect on emotionally," it could just be that he wanted them to hear the song as he intended to play it and without altering it's rhythmic nature.
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#56Duke Ellington routinely gave his audiences a lesson in his inimitable style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPcZ5ex2t-g Harry Connick Jr. didn't bother educating his European audience with any explanation. He simply skips a beat, and then they're clapping on 2 and 4. It happens after the first sung chorus. You can see the drummer raise his hands in joy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD3iaURppQw And, of course, th…
Wow, that Gaillard piece is awesome. My sense of time improved immeasurably when I switched the metronome from counting on 1 & 3 to 2 & 4. It's now one of the first pieces of advice I give to budding musicians. That, and learn everything you play in all 12 keys.
Re: Friends Don't Let Friends Clap on One and Three: A Backbeat Clapping Study
#57My circle of friends used to joke about the "Republican Test." You administer it like this: play the song "I Heard It Through the Grapevine," ideally the Marvin Gaye version, and ask the subject to "clap along with the music" however he or she feels. Our unscientific observations showed a high correlation with 1/3 clapping and being old, square, uptight, or an alien from an unfunky and obsolete dying planet.
Conversely, how do you detect a Democrat? Don't worry, it's easy. They go around calling anyone who disagrees with them names, like "old, square, uptight, or alien."
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#58And then there's bluegrass clogging...
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#59Nitpick: The slide author correctly spells "zwei" but deliberately misspells "schwartz" and "vier".
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#60Links to the songs discussed: * Billie Jean - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi_XLOBDo_Y * Impeach the President - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqbEsS5kFb8 * Take me to the Mardi Gras - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaoCsmFDLcY * The Funky Drummer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNP8tbDMZNE * Amen Brother - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxZuq57_bYM
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