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SpaceshipTwo crashes shortly after Mojave test flight

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Re: SpaceshipTwo crashes shortly after Mojave test flight

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While I can't imagine how tragic this must be for the families of the pilots, I just want to say that one of the pilots has given his everything for this cause: that one day we will not be a one-planet species. For that alone, all involved are heroes.

Totall agree. These people are the modern day seafarers. Heading out into unknown waters.

Re: SpaceshipTwo crashes shortly after Mojave test flight

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Nasaspaceflight.com has reports saying one pilot has been found alive and another didn't make it. http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=35117.270 What a terrible week. :(

Looks like that thread has moved out of the general discussion thread:

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=35974.60

Re: SpaceshipTwo crashes shortly after Mojave test flight

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The ship came down in pieces and there's debris littering the ground. It's not sounding like they all made it.

https://twitter.com/spacecom

This is awful. I hope that problems like this don't result in more regulations and barriers to private spaceflight. It's about as dangerous of a job as they come and we have to expect companies will lose men. Every astronaut is a hero for humanity and progress.

Re: SpaceshipTwo crashes shortly after Mojave test flight

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Its very sad but inevitable. At this cutting edge of technology and human endeavour, accidents are bound to happen.

It's not inevitable, as evidenced by all the other accidents that have been... evited. You just don't hear about those. (Yes, evited is a word, it's just weird.)

Re: SpaceshipTwo crashes shortly after Mojave test flight

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Here's some background after reading a little bit of Wikipedia...

- Virgin Galactic has ordered a total of 5 SpaceShipTwos from the aptly named "The Spaceship Company".

- There are 2 built, the VSS (Virgin Space Ship) Enterprise and VSS Voyager.

- Only the VSS Enterprise has been flown, so I assume that is the ship which crashed today.

This is a sad day, indeed.

Re: SpaceshipTwo crashes shortly after Mojave test flight

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This is a pretty significant and sad setback.

Virgin Galactic was set up so eventually the average person can experience the wonder of space flight. The company didn't have Elon Musk type aspirations, but it is a big part of the process that will eventually allow us to colonize the stars.

These type of events show that even though we have the smartest scientific wizards in the world working on these things, there is still so much we have to learn, almost a half century after we landed people on the moon.

Re: SpaceshipTwo crashes shortly after Mojave test flight

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This is very bad. Not just for the family and friends of the poor guy who died, but for commercial manned spaceflight in general.

SpaceshipTwo is considered the 'simplest' and 'safest' of all the upcoming manned commercial vehicle. It has many features that should help keep it reliable. For example, instead of a real liquid rocket engine, it uses a hybrid engine; it has almost no moving parts apart from a valve or two. No turbopumps or gimbals or much mechanical stuff to go wrong. It only goes suborbital, so it does not need a heatshield because there's no re-entry. The landing system uses wings & wheels similar to any commercial jet. This stuff is mature and tested.

In fact, the only novel thing about SS2 is it's wing-feathering system. It's lets the craft to descend vertically still under the pilots control. I wonder if (and this is complete speculation) there was a problem restoring the wings to their 'atmospheric' flight position which prevented them from landing normally.

The consequences for commercial manned spaceflight will be quite severe, I think. I imagine that many Virgin Galactic customers will cancel their pre-orders. The flight test program is dead in it's tracks at this point; even those who don't cancel will be unlikely to fly for many more years while investigations and improvements are concluded. Other manned providers such as SpaceX and XCor will likely be extra cautious before allowing people to fly in their vehicles.

The image of manned commercial spaceflight will take a hit. If the 'Safest' of the commercial vehicles can crash before it even enters service, I worry that many potential customers will be put off. It never hurts to remember that Spaceflight is a dangerous business.

It's a sad day to top off a bad week in spaceflight. :(

Re: SpaceshipTwo crashes shortly after Mojave test flight

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post #11
post #7

While I can't imagine how tragic this must be for the families of the pilots, I just want to say that one of the pilots has given his everything for this cause: that one day we will not be a one-planet species. For that alone, all involved are heroes.

Totall agree. These people are the modern day seafarers. Heading out into unknown waters.

Someone dying is devastating. Trying to conquer space a handful of people at a time is the slow and dangerous way of accomplishing this task. We should be building machines to explore the solar system. This can be done for a fraction of the cost, time, and it will allow him to allow us to iterate quickly.

In 100 years, more humans will live off earth if we iterate with machines, etc now than if we move slowly trying to reduce the risk in order to keep humans safe.

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