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Re: Microsoft Band

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It's sold out online now: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productI... I wonder how many that was.

I stopped by the local store after work: All three sizes were sold out. I was able to try on their demo units and pick my size -- on the online store medium was available in December, but small and large were still in stock (at that time).

I'd say they have a hit.

Re: Microsoft Band

#512

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Your phone can't lock to GPS faster because it can use cell towers to narrow down your position first. The Band should lock more quickly now that it has a general idea of where you are. I have a Garmin GPS watch, and the initial lock does take a long time.

Thanks, you are correct. I tried again a few hours later from home (about 50 miles away from my initial test) and it locked within 30 seconds. Edit: I've had it plugged into my MBP to charge for about 35 minutes and it still said 80%. After turning it completely off and back on fixed this (now says 100%). Edit2: I really wish I could play music via bluetooth with this.

>I really wish I could play music via bluetooth with this.

I was really hoping for that when reading through everything it could do. I know it can't do everything but most of the power at that point would be on the headphones right? I'd be surprised if that doesn't show up at some point.

Re: Microsoft Band

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It's got a microphone and bluetooth so it might just be a software limitation. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple actually locked third parties out from using Siri like this though. Are you saying that you want Cortana even if you're using Android or iOS? I don't think that's going to be possible.

It'd be nice if you could get Google Now on Android at least. I doubt Apple would open up Siri, though.

They have the SDKs available so it's up to Google and Apple to integrate...

Re: Microsoft Band

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Visual Studio has been using COM since COM was new. That 21 years of code that's been written against an API that Linux doesn't provide. COM is not only proprietary but also a horrible thing. I don't see it ever being on any Linux list of things to do. It will never install on Linux. If you want something as good as Visual Studio on Linux, write it.

COM is horrible to write code for (although not THAT bad), and is tricky to troubleshoot (hurray for TLBs and massive hex registry strings) but it is a very handy feature of the system! Does anything exist on other platforms like Mac OSX and Linux? CORBA was written all over the place GNOME1 / 2 time as I recall but I don't actually know if anything like COM exists anywhere?

Gecko uses XPCOM extensively (though less than it used to). XPCOM is basically a cross-platform implementation of the same principles as Microsoft COM.

In particular, XPCOM allows easy binding with the Spidermonkey JS runtime so you can expose things to scripts.

Re: Microsoft Band

#515

I wonder if it would be usable for navigation. I guess it would be impractical because it lacks a compass?

I think most handheld navigation aids infer direction of travel from position information. An electronic compass gives the orientation of the device, who knows how it is being held.

I guess they use a compass when it's available, like for trying to display a map oriented to compass north, but I don't think it is dependable as algorithmic input.

Something mounted in a vehicle can directly factor the compass data into directions though (just saying that to emphasize that I'm talking about handheld stuff above).

Re: Microsoft Band

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I totally get what you're saying and am happy to hear that it works that well but, I haven't seen anything like that in the shots. The only thing I've seen is the "do not disturb" mode which is probably what I'll do when I get it. I'd love to hear more about what you like about it and how it is. My main concern was basically not having yet another phone-like device that will annoy the crap out of me. And the Band is…

Here's my first day thoughts: http://randomfoo.net/2014/10/30/microsoft-band-overviewrevie...

very useful! So I saw that you said it's uncomfortable? That's a major concern for me. I spend the entire day typing. I wonder if my strangely-shaped wrists will alleviate that though.

Re: Microsoft Band

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It's weird though, isn't it? I would expect it to be waterproof. If not swimming, then just not having to worry about it when being in rain, washing hands, etc..

Agreed. Yet not one of my cellphones from iPhone and my old Blackberry back though various motorola's have been waterproof and that worked out OK for me. On a watch form factor this is kind of strange. These are the kinds of things that make me wonder what designers might be thinking sometimes or perhaps question the design process itself. Do they wash their hands? Do they cook? Have they ever had to walk a few block…

Apple watch is, from what people say, also only water resistant.

It seems likely that it is a pretty straightforward case of making trade offs. It's got a touchscreen and a whole bunch of other stuff packed in there, even if you can do the work to keep the weight the same it's going to push your ship date.

There are GPS sport watches that are very waterproof at about the same weight (roughly 60 grams), but they have pretty different feature profiles (generally no touchscreen, no microphone, no bluetooth) and are 4th and 5th generation devices.

Re: Microsoft Band

#518
Somewhat tangental to the actual story here, but is there some way to make something like Microsoft Band, Fitbit, Jawbone Up, or Nike+ FuelBand self-contained to your own server?

I'd love to use one of these devices, but I abhor the idea of my very personal movement/biometric data to be in the hands of a third party. If this data could be contained to my own server, I'd be all over it.

Re: Microsoft Band

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>30 min to 80% charge That's impressive. But why does it take 60 minutes to charge the last 20%?

To put it really simply: Batteries are nonlinear. Charge/discharge rates vary based on the current amount of power stored in the battery.

That makes a lot of sense, thanks.

Re: Microsoft Band

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Hey, I'm an Open Source Engineer with MSFT (and the msft dude for YC) - there isn't anything out yet, but we have always released SDKs for pretty much anything we build.

What does "the msft dude for YC" mean?

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